Please, GGG. For the LOVE OF GOD: Fix Berserker.
I shouldn't have to explain this, I mean Reddit did all the work for me in the last 4 years. Google it yourself if you are confused by this post.
No one is satisfied with it. And I have dumped 28 divines today to just try to make my build work in standard, still struggling on Tier 14 maps. Haven't even attempted Maven at T16 yet. Maybe for some people that's a pittance, but it took me years to get to what I can afford today, and I am not pleased about it. Seriously. The Ascendancy is considered the worst in the game by the community, and that isn't something anyone brags about. Last bumped on Jan 11, 2025, 8:23:03 AM
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I shouldn't have to explain this. Google it yourself if you're confused by this post.
Berserker is not the least popular ascendancy, nor is it the least represented at the "level one hundred" level, in any of the Settlers leagues. And even if it were, it wouldn't actually mean that it was the worst because that's argumentum ad populum, one of the most infamously nonsensical logical fallacies. Your entire premise is broken and your " the community agrees with me" claim is demonstrably untrue. |
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I found both reasons why you're struggling in T14 maps with one of the strongest ascendancies in the game. And, just to be clear, the problem is max HP and your choice of ascendancy notable Hope that helps Last edited by bgyoshi#1954 on Jan 8, 2025, 8:54:16 AM
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Damn, I killed all ubers with my Berserker in Settlers. If that's broken, I don't wanna know what is considered "fixed".
Honestly Berserker was never stronger than right now with the changes to Rage and Slams. |
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Berserker is fine. It's juggernaut that is waaaaaaaay overrated. The best node by far on jugg is undeniable (strength --> accuracy --> attack speed) and you can get that from forbidden jewel combo. Berserker with this jewel combo feels great.
Also Aspect of Carnage is like the best DPS ascendancy notable in the game. 10% increased damage taken is nothing. 4k life is fine for berserker. There are plenty of good cheap-mid builds for berserker that have nothing to do with juggling warcries for slams. You can play slam spam fine with zero warcries just stacking rage, attack speed, crit, block, etc. For more specific advice for the OP, you are playing cyclone 2hand which is terrible without godmode levels of glass cannon investment. You are a left/bottom side ascendancy so block is king and you have zero. If you really want to play 2handers, switch to a long range warcry stacking slam build like sunder. Otherwise, so 1 handed + shield and pick an attack skill without a terrible damage multiplier like cyclone. For example, a low-mid budget 1 hand + shield reave berserker build (physical, not the expensive chaos version) will perform way better than a 2 handed cyclone build with way more investment. Last edited by mnieradko#6070 on Jan 9, 2025, 7:36:34 PM
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" To be clearer: When you're struggling in T14 maps on a character above level 80 with Act 10 HP and sub-100k EHP, 4k life/ES is absolutely not okay for any ascendancy and Aspect of Carnage is 100% the wrong decision. I know the POE community at large really struggles with this concept, but your DPS is zero when you're dead. Aspect of Carnage is the best DPS notable in the game when you don't die, and Abyssus is the best DPS helmet when you don't die. If you die, they are entirely useless. You only get to use these when you never die. Last edited by bgyoshi#1954 on Jan 10, 2025, 9:47:44 AM
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" I know what u're trying to point out, but ur numbers are so wrong... u don't need 100k EHP or anything close to that for T14 maps. Just an example from my Berserker: (with Aspect of Carnage) That's a character that clears juiced T17s and kills Ubers. I can even chill in some deadly mechanics like Uber Sirus Meteor if I change a few gems. Just get some reasonable amount of armour and endurance charges + recovery and Aspect of Carnage is no problem. |
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" Yes, and this post is for a character that can't chill in T14 maps. Aspect of Carnage is the problem, 4k HP is the problem. Bump it to 6k HP and unallocate AoC and suddenly you won't struggle in T16 maps anymore. And I guarantee, assuming you haven't misconfigured your screenshot from who knows where, that PoB is not accurately calculating your EHP (as usual) if you can chill in Uber Sirus meteors without dying. Stop spreading misinformation. 4k HP is not enough and AoC is not a good notable if you're dying, ever. OP is clearly frustrated to the point of claiming that Berserker is the worst ascendancy, it does nothing to tell them their choices are working correctly and all they need is a shield. They have 22k armor, 75% chaos/81% ele/90% fire res and still die. A shield won't help, they will also have to heavily invest in att/spell block to make it worthwhile and swapping to 1h will obliterate their build synergy. The problem is low HP and taking extra damage, period. They won't get 1 shot in T16 without AoC and with 6k HP, and they won't have to change anything else. Here's some good Berserker builds using AoC. You'll notice the number of characters above 5k HP outnumber the ones below 5k https://poe.ninja/builds/eventhc/?class=Berserker&min-level=90 |
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No, u don't understand what I was refering to.
The amount of life has nothing to do with Aspect of Carnage and dying in T14s. Obviously 6k life instead of 4k means he has 50% more HP without changing anything else. What I'm saying is that he has to use different ways to mitigate Damage. 22k Armour is nothing and especially without any other form of physical mitigation like endurance charges. 10% increased damage taken is noticable sure, but it's not the main problem of his build. He needs to understand how to build defenses. Just saying "spec out of AoC and get 6k life" doesn't help him in the long run. He might be able to run T14 maps this way, but he will get stuck eventually maybe in T16s or juiced T16s, who knows. And yeah, EHP calcs in PoB are wack which is why no one really takes it serious. Max hit matters way more. (btw. my profile is public, if u think the pob is altered - only MB is missing because its on my occultist) Only using alot of Armour + Endurance charges is enough for T16 maps, even with 4k life. By alot I mean 50k+ tho, not 22k. (add some damage conversion from chest aswell to be safe) Anyway, fix Berserker plz! Last edited by Sadaukar#2191 on Jan 10, 2025, 1:40:13 PM
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" i wonder where these divines went. your gear is pretty.. bad tbh what i mean is that your entire gear set has less armour than one well rolled Royal plate (it looks great but ive just slammed few life harvest rerolls and hit it, this is an 'easy' item to get) the new bases introduced last patch are AMAZING and you are supposed to use them. as a Berserker your 'standard' defences are: - armour (+endu charges) - max res - regen - overwhelming damage you have regen, some max-res but your armour and end charges are nowhere to be seen starter set of Leviathan gloves/boots, Giantslayer helm and Royal plate should give you, without anything else, enough armour to ignore most phys damage. go for simple stuff: life/double AR rolls. these items are cheap and you can, in a pinch, craft them yourself your cluster jewels are garbage, you are wasting potential using them. clusters in general are worth it in only two cases: stats you CANNOT get elsewhere OR if you have clusters where ALL notables are good for you. otherwise regular jewels are better. Berserker played with warcries gets his armour from Seismic Cry and max res from Ancestral Cry. sure, you need to piano them, but it actually works and you only need it vs difficult stuff anyway. you play cyclone, so you can still use them, but only for BUFF, not exert. your call and Cyclone without source of instant leech.. is strange i think your main issue is trying to force crit on this build. it obviously can be done but for that you need base crit - and you did nothing to get it (assassins mark, +1.5crit on chest) of and that Aul's amulet.. it is just sad. vitality you can easily reserve on life, no need to use it EVER im sorry to say that, but just go poe.ninja and check how others build their cyclone builds. yours.. kinda wont work and it is not because of Berserker |
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