AUCTION HOUSE IN GAME

Is totally pointless the actual state of the game, a true polished game, with a insane content and NO AUCTION HOUSE, what is the point, of alt tabbing and going into a website that's shutdown every 3m to trade? dear GGG, fix it, that's annoying
Last edited by judaschott#1492 on Dec 18, 2024, 1:52:48 PM
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Consequences of Easy Trade

So given that we love trade and feel it is critical to Path of Exile's formula, why is there so much debate around trade in this game? Most of it stems around whether trade should be easy or not. While easy trade sounds great on paper, there are some important considerations!

Easy trade reduces the number of times a character improves their items.
People who are heavily engaged in trade perform fewer item upgrades to achieve their final build. They get there in fewer steps, because they can easily buy items that are close to what they need. Simply put, their character progression is more about trading than it is about getting items from monsters. We believe that it is more fun to slowly and iteratively upgrade a character over time and to have a longer journey to gear a character up. Knowing that a monster could drop something that improves your character is a great motivator for playing one more level!

Easy trade means reducing drop rates
Compare two hypothetical games. In the first game, trade is very difficult. The majority of items that can't be used by your character are not traded to other people. In the second game, trade is very easy. Many of the items that you can't use are traded to other people for items that you can. In the second game, because of trade, you have a much higher acquisition rate of useful items. While that sounds great if you want instant gratification, in reality it means that the second game either receives reduced drop rates relative to the first, or ends up being a whole lot easier and less challenging to achieve goals in.

Easy trade would make the disparity between different players too great
Both of the above points are even worse when you consider that the level of engagement with trade varies substantially from player to player. Most players who play Path of Exile never trade. Out of the players who do trade, most only complete a few trades in a league. The subset of players who regularly trade strongly overlaps with our core reddit and forum communities. Chances are, if you're reading this, then you're one of the top 10% of players in terms of engagement with advanced systems. The difference in magnitude of trading (and hence item acquisition and progress) between non/low-traders and heavy traders is gigantic. While a regular player would be lucky to accumulate a small handful of Exalted Orbs in a league, a trader might reach hundreds in the same timeframe. This enables them to fully-gear Shaper-capable characters while the non-trader is still in mid-tier maps or lower.

The significant differences in character power and player progression caused by trade has already created a situation where Path of Exile is very hard for some players and quite easy for others. Some people never stand a chance of seeing some of the Atlas of Worlds content, while others can rather quickly defeat it and are looking for new challenges. We're tentatively okay with the degree to which this occurs currently, but it would be much worse if trading were made substantially easier.

Easy trade allows for greater abuse by automation
Another topic is automation. While we work hard to stamp out bots and abusive behaviour, it would be hard to completely eliminate the damage caused by a few trade bots with access to a fast trade system. If they have the ability to search out and buy items without having to talk to another player, then there would be some very large-scale economic consequences that would not be good for regular players.
Last edited by superbomb1967#5561 on Dec 18, 2024, 1:56:48 PM
As I was reading your post I was thinking that it applies in exactly the opposite way from how you meant it. All of that is why we NEED easy trade, not the consequences of easy trade. You made quite the case for it yourself there.

In time it would find a flow that made sense. That's how markets work.

The only actual issue is if the devs consider it worthy of their development resources or not. Maybe is is not worth it to them, but I sure wish it was.

Anything that requires an out of game website is going to automatically exclude at least 80% of people simply by virtue of being an extra step.

Trade should not be annoying.
Trade is easy in poe 1 and poe 2.

The only difference because its in browser its annoying, laggy, most of the time not working (like half the day today), an wastes tons of your time by whispering people for 60 min and them not replying.....

Something have to be done about it. This should be in game imo.

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