[PSA] You're in EARLY ACCESS, give feedback but don't expect your character to be intact

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RedMenace13#6513 wrote:

What a clown take. What exactly do you think they take into account when making said changes?

What a clown response. Of course they take feedback in account.
But I'm pretty sure they don't take into account that Red Menace 13's character will be broken after the changes.
Do you understand nuance, or its all 1-0 in your head?

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ziggro#7495 wrote:

So youre tired of the complaining and decided to complain about the complaining. Classic.

PSA complaining still complaining.

I'm not tired, you're tired! :D You're also complaining about me complaining about other people complaining about complaining. Ayayay, I'm so smart, see, I did you a funny!

In all seriousness I doubt that explaining anything to you will do any good since you chose to ignore what I wrote and try to clown instead. Hope you had fun

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Perq#4049 wrote:

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Mr_Vagtastic#4761 wrote:

Those are not qualifications for Alpha. Alpha happens directly after pre-alpha and prototyping with gray boxes. Instead of trying to sound smart, educate yourself and be smart. Being a consumer of something doesn't make you qualified to give analysis.

Gray boxes... XDDD

Can you use your own advice and educate yourself, please? Some google search will suffice:

https://www.whatgamesare.com/alpha.html#:~:text=Alpha%20is%20a%20standard%20term,sound%20enough%20for%20deep%20testing.

You may want to read this part a few times:

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game content is largely represented (but may require polish).

We're missing more than half of the game content currently.

You linked me a blog from one guy that is using the same incorrect definition that you are. You might even be the owner of the blog. These systems are well beyond what is published in your blog anyway, if we want to use what you provided as the definition you provided. "because they are often defined well in advance of actual delivery, before the constraints of the project are well understood.". From your source, 6 months til launch is not well in advance of delivery. Alpha was handled early on internally, your source claims gaming industry experience yet I see no accolades they were responsible for, how do I know they didn't spend 20 years getting coffee?

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Perq#4049 wrote:

Bump because nobody seems to care XD

They do and the people that are upset are fully aware it’s just they want an echo chamber of +1 and rants rather than accepting any responsibility. It is what it is.

The recent cast on exploit is just another one of these examples. The developers stated it was n it behaving as intended, so whether the players knew it or not, it was an exploit by definition.

Up to the players if they can accept that fact or not.

Personally I would just work with what I have or reroll or save up gold to respec.

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Mr_Vagtastic#4761 wrote:

You linked me a blog from one guy that is using the same incorrect definition that you are. You might even be the owner of the blog. These systems are well beyond what is published in your blog anyway, if we want to use what you provided as the definition you provided.

Yeah buddy, its all conspiracy theory and only the definition you hold is correct.

Lets ask ChatGPT (that I'm also owner of, clearly, lmao) what it thinks about it:
https://chatgpt.com/share/675aef75-95d4-8013-8e4c-41dc477f902a
Oh look, its exactly the same thing.

Lets try another one (I have a lot of websites):
https://www.33rdsquare.com/what-does-alpha-game-mean/
One of my other sites:
https://gamedev.stackexchange.com/questions/75809/what-is-the-difference-between-an-alpha-and-a-beta-release

I truly am an amazing human being, I own half of the internet!

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Perq#4049 wrote:

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vAgyrus#1995 wrote:

This version of the game is not mainly used for testing, it's an early access game that isn't finished. It's not alpha either which you have been incorrect so many times on, that multiple people had to tell you otherwise.
Just please stop as you're making yourself look more and more like a clown.

So many times on, which is exactly once, and it is factually incorrect.
Not to mention that EA is essentially Alpha stage of the game... lol. At least for most EA games (some release to EA in beta stage, but that is rarity).

You are incorrect EA can be any stage. The reason why it isn't Alpha is due to how the game currently is. Alpha does not soley exist as EA games simply because Alpha games are generally closed testing phases of a game that has no polish or anything to it mostly used for internal developers. This can be seen more as a beta because the general concept and functionality of the game is there with the core mechanics. Having less characters and less acts/content doesn't mean the game is in Alpha.
The reason why this makes sense is because you're paying for access... The game is already passed the internal development phase which is why it's generally not correct to call it an Alpha.
Here are the current phases of games developments that are widely used:
alpha - beta - early access in that order
Otherwise we would be Alpha or Beta testers but we're not.

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Perq#4049 wrote:

Bump because nobody seems to care XD

Nobody cares because your comment has no point.

Yes, it's Early Access but gamedesign choice mean a lot about the next.
PoE2 will be slow with less freedom in your builds, etc...

Can't think it will be better in 6 months, because fix a bad gamedesign need to think all your game (mechanics, engine, etc...)


If you like PoE2, I'm glad for you, but it should be an upgrade of PoE1 who got lack of updates for this.
A game with less freedom and feel like a new generic ARPG.

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Mr_Vagtastic#4761 wrote:

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Perq#4049 wrote:

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Mr_Vagtastic#4761 wrote:

Those are not qualifications for Alpha. Alpha happens directly after pre-alpha and prototyping with gray boxes. Instead of trying to sound smart, educate yourself and be smart. Being a consumer of something doesn't make you qualified to give analysis.

Gray boxes... XDDD

Can you use your own advice and educate yourself, please? Some google search will suffice:

https://www.whatgamesare.com/alpha.html#:~:text=Alpha%20is%20a%20standard%20term,sound%20enough%20for%20deep%20testing.

You may want to read this part a few times:

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game content is largely represented (but may require polish).

We're missing more than half of the game content currently.

You linked me a blog from one guy that is using the same incorrect definition that you are. You might even be the owner of the blog. These systems are well beyond what is published in your blog anyway, if we want to use what you provided as the definition you provided. "because they are often defined well in advance of actual delivery, before the constraints of the project are well understood.". From your source, 6 months til launch is not well in advance of delivery. Alpha was handled early on internally, your source claims gaming industry experience yet I see no accolades they were responsible for, how do I know they didn't spend 20 years getting coffee?

Edit: you're clearly mixing up "represented" and "finished" the visuals and effects we have in game are all finished, what they're working on behind the scenes is "represented" I the versions they're working us. They're not showing us the pre-polish stages which would have been the beta testing.

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Mr_Vagtastic#4761 wrote:

Edit: you're clearly mixing up "represented" and "finished" the visuals and effects we have in game are all finished, what they're working on behind the scenes is "represented" I the versions they're working us. They're not showing us the pre-polish stages which would have been the beta testing.

I'm sure I'm the one that is clearly mixing up stuff here, especially after you've tin-foilled the definition I linked saying its only there because its my site... I mean, seriously.

you should absolutely complain when they make terrible decisions, are you insane? They literally want your feedback, have you seen the name of the forum you are posting in? Here is a hint; it is called the feedback forum.