[PSA] You're in EARLY ACCESS, give feedback but don't expect your character to be intact

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Perq#4049 wrote:

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vAgyrus#1995 wrote:

You really made a post in the Feedback channel about people not liking the patches and then complain about them.
Everyone has made so many arguments against you and even pointed out sound logic but yet here we are.
It makes no sense why you would post this except for wanting attention.

I'll ignore the pointless personal drama and answer you point:

I have nothing against people giving feedback regarding actual changes made (I've even made some point myself): this is literally point of this forum and EA stage of the game. The more feedback given, the better. The problem is, as stated above, PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT CHANGES BEING MADE. They argue it with "their characters are now worse".
This is not about your characters being playable or you having a comfortable experience with the game. This is a test to develop a good game.

This version of the game is not mainly used for testing, it's an early access game that isn't finished. It's not alpha either which you have been incorrect so many times on, that multiple people had to tell you otherwise.
Just please stop as you're making yourself look more and more like a clown.

What a clown take. What exactly do you think they take into account when making said changes?

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JODYHiGHR0LLER#6171 wrote:

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Perq#4049 wrote:

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vAgyrus#1995 wrote:

You really made a post in the Feedback channel about people not liking the patches and then complain about them.
Everyone has made so many arguments against you and even pointed out sound logic but yet here we are.
It makes no sense why you would post this except for wanting attention.

I'll ignore the pointless personal drama and answer you point:

I have nothing against people giving feedback regarding actual changes made (I've even made some point myself): this is literally point of this forum and EA stage of the game. The more feedback given, the better. The problem is, as stated above, PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT CHANGES BEING MADE. They argue it with "their characters are now worse".
This is not about your characters being playable or you having a comfortable experience with the game. This is a test to develop a good game.

most of the feedback i have seen is people being upset that their characters are bricked and that we didnt get the free respecs jonathan said we would get for large changes.
he stated this multiple times, in multiple interviews.
he did not honor that.

And I completely agree that they should do that for EA to make testing easier

So here comes the question.
Who cares about the time and effort that players put into this character and this build? GGG? I don't see GGG having the proper respect for the time that players put into it.

this feedback forum is here for the sole reason of people complaining about things in the game, changing something does not always mean making it better in fact a lot of times they make it worse and the feedback is needed.
So I hope people are complaining as much as possible to make the game as good as it can be in the future.

I mean most reasonable posts I’ve seen just want lowered costs or free respecs given that balance changes are happening at such a rapid pace

Given the amount of time needed to try a build this hardly seems unreasonable

And while yes you can lock in on the people that are only upset their build doesn’t work and want it back, that seems disingenuous given that most people are focusing on lack of respec support

As for the nerf itself, while warranted in my opinion seems largely over done.
If you take cast on freeze for example it has 11x’d the requirement for a trigger

Seems to me either you could either lower the threshold to like 3-5x the old one or just weaken abilities that are triggered versus manually cast to still make it viable but more balanced, but that’s just my two cents.

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Devyniaragis#3245 wrote:

this feedback forum is here for the sole reason of people complaining about things in the game, changing something does not always mean making it better in fact a lot of times they make it worse and the feedback is needed.
So I hope people are complaining as much as possible to make the game as good as it can be in the future.

super agree.
a lot of people tend to use this as a diary or editorial section when the sub-forum is literally named 'feedback'.

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vAgyrus#1995 wrote:

This version of the game is not mainly used for testing, it's an early access game that isn't finished. It's not alpha either which you have been incorrect so many times on, that multiple people had to tell you otherwise.
Just please stop as you're making yourself look more and more like a clown.

So many times on, which is exactly once, and it is factually incorrect.
Not to mention that EA is essentially Alpha stage of the game... lol. At least for most EA games (some release to EA in beta stage, but that is rarity).

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Devyniaragis#3245 wrote:

this feedback forum is here for the sole reason of people complaining about things in the game, changing something does not always mean making it better in fact a lot of times they make it worse and the feedback is needed.
So I hope people are complaining as much as possible to make the game as good as it can be in the future.

Completely agree as long as these arguments are made in an attempt to make things work better instead of trying to ensure that the characters that they're currently playing is in the same state as it was.

I'm also fully for respec points being cheaper now, as it only makes sense at this stage.

So youre tired of the complaining and decided to complain about the complaining. Classic.

PSA complaining still complaining.