Minion Crucible Passive Skill Tree T4 Notes are all Bad, Here Are some proposed changes/ reworks.

The main problem is most of these nodes don't make sense for the Skill they're given to or they're monsterously outclassed when compared to Nodes on the trees of other Builds.

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1: Zombies and Spectres

Current:
Raised Zombies and Spectres gain Adrenaline for 8/14 Seconds when Raised.

Problem:
Raised Zombies and Spectres are almost always permenant minions. A buff for when they're first created is useless for them, as they wont gain any benefit from it in a meaningful time frame. After you've finished summoning the 7th Zombie the buff would have worn off the first one.

Solution:
Make the buff permenant but at 50% of the value or Change this all together.

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2: Skeletons and Holy Relics

Current:
Skeletons and Holy Relics convert 100% of their Physical Damage to a random Element

Problem:
The main build that utilizes skeletons is 'Skele Mages', and they already have all of their damage converted to elemental. Melee skeletons fall under the problem that they cant all reach a target to attack it, along with the fact they are in close proximity melee distance means it'd feel horrible to play with.

Solution:
Change this buff all together to something more generalized that'd be beneficial to however people want to play skeletons. These guys could utilize the Adrenaline buff give to Zombies/ Spectres and would actually make it work well.

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3: Animate Guardian

Current:
50% Increased Effect of Link Buffs on Animated Guardian, Link Skills can Target Animated Guardian.

Problem:
The ability to link to Minions already exists on the skill tree so if people wanted this they can already get it with ease too.

Solution:
Changing this buff entirely again unfortunatly. Something like 'All Animated Guardians Gear drops on Death' would be cool. It'd fix the Kingmaker prices and stop a lot of the risk of trying out new gear on your AG. Or Something else like your Animated Guardian provides a massive/ Lesser shrine buff to nearby allies.

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4: Summoned Reaper

Current:
Storm and Armageddon Brands can be attached to your Summoned Reaper

Problem:
For the ultimate minion this is a really left field buff that doesnt make nearly any sense.

Solution:
Change this buff entirely. Giving a buff thats something like Increased AOE/ Attack Speed/ Cooldown recovery would be really good here. Or even something like 'Reaper no longer has a taste for Animated Guardians and wont eat it anymore' would be a good change.

Its nice to see more minion users giving quality feedback and that your feedback has actual gameplay experience behind it :P

One suggestion i would like to make is to have more (less is more) conversions similar to the SRS node where your maximum is reduced but what you are left with is buffed could be a good route to add for zombies/spectres and any other minions that were left out of the crucible passives.. It's not what i personally want but it makes sense in line with other crucible mechanics and at least in terms of Raise Spectre it doesn't need to go any higher on the number of possible spectres

Personally was wishing for a +1 to max spectres at a cost of some kind to free myself from the midnight bargain, Been chained to that thing for a long time.

I personally think those changes would be really cool and I very much in the camp of splitting up the Zombies and Spectres nodes to allow for that diversity.

For spectres; as you mentioned a +1 to Max Spectres would be the most idealistic node to have, and you could balance it quite easily with either a slight reduction to minion damage, cast/attack speed or life.

And as for Zombies; The concept of only being allowed like ~66% of Your Zombies, But having them either: Give buffs to your party/ Have Increased Stats/ Other benefits to counteract this would be a really cool and different playstyle, Might even bring back Baron Helm to be used.

The base game changed too much without years of nerfs being reverted. I feel your pain that the crucible stuff is underwhelming for minions but it would be a crutch at best. I'd like to see srs refresh on rare and unique and 200% minion duration but it's a pipe dream.

You get builds that can crush the game damage-wise by giving up both minion shield and minion wand, none of them can use minion rings if they want to cap chaos res and they give up spell suppression and the armour slot. Perhaps the all res necro node could also cover chaos res but that'd mess up the fleshcrafters. All changes conspired to make us spam skills too much and it cost more and more defensive slots and gem slots and jewel slots. The base cost for the gear is insane in trade - or it was, during the time people actively played minions this league.

+1 number of spectres would need no downside.
+2 to all support gems linked to a minion skill, perhaps?
+1% spell suppression per minion and phantasm currently summoned
+10 max life per minion and phantasm currently summoned
Socketed gems supported by 21/23% summon phantasm.

Something quite impactful.

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Treme2 wrote:

The base game changed too much without years of nerfs being reverted. I feel your pain that the crucible stuff is underwhelming for minions but it would be a crutch at best. I'd like to see srs refresh on rare and unique and 200% minion duration but it's a pipe dream.

You get builds that can crush the game damage-wise by giving up both minion shield and minion wand, none of them can use minion rings if they want to cap chaos res and they give up spell suppression and the armour slot. Perhaps the all res necro node could also cover chaos res but that'd mess up the fleshcrafters. All changes conspired to make us spam skills too much and it cost more and more defensive slots and gem slots and jewel slots. The base cost for the gear is insane in trade - or it was, during the time people actively played minions this league.

+1 number of spectres would need no downside.
+2 to all support gems linked to a minion skill, perhaps?
+1% spell suppression per minion and phantasm currently summoned
+10 max life per minion and phantasm currently summoned
Socketed gems supported by 21/23% summon phantasm.

Something quite impactful.

well maybe you're right it wouldn't need a downside but the reason i suggest that downside is because if they add that ANYWHERE in the game it will free me from the midnight bargain

I can't personally advocate for additional spectre's anywhere in the game without imposing a downside :P my conscience wont let me.

Some of the scaling values you posted seem fun im currently using an item that gives me % energy shield per x thing and its interesting seeing my max eHP going up and down.. With minions ESPECIALLY temporary minions your idea sounds very cool and also a way to encourage a player to both cast that minion frequently or find ways to sustain them to maintain their eHP pool.

Not Used a Midnight Bargin in ages, haha.

I want old Femurs

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EvilMarshmelow wrote:

4: Summoned Reaper

Current:
Storm and Armageddon Brands can be attached to your Summoned Reaper

Problem:
For the ultimate minion this is a really left field buff that doesnt make nearly any sense.

Solution:
Change this buff entirely. Giving a buff thats something like Increased AOE/ Attack Speed/ Cooldown recovery would be really good here. Or even something like 'Reaper no longer has a taste for Animated Guardians and wont eat it anymore' would be a good change.

When i saw that mod in the leaked list, i thought it was a joke, when i saw it in game, i felt insulted

It literally is a F you to people who play that skill, literally, it's a subliminal message, GGG telling you that it is a bad skill that they plan to remove in PoE 2, hence why no MTX, it'll be gone

Yeah Man, I had such high hopes for reaper when it was announced. And it's been so lack luster for Me personally. I really wanted to just be able to integrate it into almost any minion build but Alas, became dead content on launch.