Righteous fire (RF) bug - life 7 points below max

Hi,

I'm pretty sure it's a bug.


I turn on the RF and game starts to work as if my max health was 7 points lower than that what is shown in the UI.

When I use all mana game becomes unplayable bcs my life is never full
and mana doesn't regen because "The agnostic" turns on.
I can't get it back to full life even with life flask.

Happens even in hideout - RF makes my life jump to 7 points below the max lifepool.


I see no reason for that to be the case - it always regenerates to the "new" max which is 7 points lower than max shown in stats..

POB: https://pobb.in/kjTj2LZ4l47c
Last edited by seqqin#7777 on Apr 5, 2023, 4:56:05 PM
Last bumped on May 21, 2023, 5:26:57 AM
If you had an ES you would see the same thing, a slightly lower # that what you have on paper.
I have never used The Agnostic with RF so don't know the interaction.
~ Please separate the PoE1 and PoE2 forums.
This isnt a bug, except for the UI not showing full life, which is normal for degen builds like RF.

Basically you are never on full life, because you will always degen aka take dmg from RF.
Agnostic states, that 20% of your mana will be sacrificed per second and recovered as life. This is a fixed value. Even if you are only missing 1 life, Agnostic will still sacrifice 20% mana.

So, since RF will constantly degen you, you will never be on full life and thus you will constantly sacrificing 20% mana per sec until you run out of mana.
The only way to prevent this is stacking enough mana regen to recover 20% mana per sec.
If you cant do this, Agnostic is a bad choice for your build.
Last edited by Orbaal#0435 on Apr 5, 2023, 4:35:15 PM
Ok but the problem only occurs when I lose all my mana:


Game is completely fine - mana regenerates and life too if I get hit,
but when I lose too much (all) mana and then regain life to "full", mana doesn't regen anymore even though mana regen per sec stays the same...

(in the above situation mana was spent to regen life and thats fine but then it never regenerates - I just see flickering of 6/7 mana points)
Last edited by seqqin#7777 on Apr 5, 2023, 4:43:55 PM
Would be easier if you could post your PoB.

Im guessing the issue is that you cant sacrifice 20% mana at this point and thats screwing your build over.
Even mana flask doesn't work, the only way to get mana regen after losing all of it (all of it bcs otherwise everything is fine) -- the only way is to lose RF buff and then recast it, after that everything is being sustained.

So having RF all time turned on: I can dequip some mana regen items, lose all mana and say half life requip it - life regens to full, but mana doesn't at all.
Or I can dequip mana regen stuff, lose mana and life, lose RF, regen everything and requip after life is full recast RF and everything is fine (mana regens).
POB: https://pobb.in/kjTj2LZ4l47c

Don't hate on me for some of those choices, its in progress ;p
But mana is sustained provided I don't lose it all at some point
Last edited by seqqin#7777 on Apr 5, 2023, 4:58:10 PM
Too late, Im already hating on you >;-)


Anyways - you have almost no mana regen.
The only reason why you arent running out of mana all the time is your Cinderswallow flask. If that isnt up or you arent killing stuff, you wont regen anywhere near enough to sustain.

Part of the reason why is your placement of the legion jewel, which changed all your mana regen nodes into max ES, which is useless because Agnostic nullifies all your ES.

So Id recommend to move that legion jewel somwhere else where it cant ruin your mana sustain and/or allocate Mind Drinker, which is basically a Cinderswallow flask but its permanent and then bring a mana flask instead of Cinderswallow just in case.
I have 750 mana regen per sec without the flask, and I can sustain RF with it.
Problem only occurs if I lose all mana, then for some reason it doesn't regenerate, but if I lose say 80% it does.
What do you mean mana regen into ES, there is one that transforms life regen /max life into mana regen / max mana.

Edit: ok, maybe its not enough idk, but I don't understand why losing 90% and 100% changes that fact - that mana can or can't regen anymore
Last edited by seqqin#7777 on Apr 5, 2023, 6:13:34 PM


Both notables have turned into Thoughts and Prayers by your Legion jewel and thus no longer provide %mana nor mana regen.

PoB says your mana regen sits at a whoopings 95.5 w/o RF active and -234.7 with RF active - thats not facturing in Agnostic but simply MoM.

I have no idea where those 950 mana regen per sec you claim to have would come from. Unless PoB is at fault and doesnt convert notables affected by Legion jewels properly.

Im not says you are wrong, PoB isnt 100% reliable.
From what I can see on my end, this is why you cant sustain.
Last edited by Orbaal#0435 on Apr 5, 2023, 6:24:09 PM

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