Ignite with echoforge + original sin not working [solved]

echoforge = deal no non chaos damage
ignite = fire damage
original sin = convert ele to chaos damage
result = NO IGNITE (there are many ways to allow chaos to ignite, 3 from the top of my head)

argument: echoforge says deal no non chaos damage thus ignite should deal no damage

counter point:
setup above + anger = increased DPS (fire converted to chaos success!)

this leads me to believe theres something wrong

its not consistant. anger's flat damage can be converted but ignite is cannot.

Damage conversion is the type of mechanic that applies to hits, but does not apply to damage over time.

Ignite deals Fire Damage over Time. You cannot change it from dealing Fire damage.

The unique ring Blackflame changes the Ignite damage enemies take from Fire to Chaos. However, it's notably not converting the type of damage you deal, so you're still dealing Fire damage...it's just making them take it as Chaos damage.



Long story short: you cannot ignite with Original Sin Echoforge.

[Edit] I meant to say "with Echoforge", but got mixed up and put the wrong name.

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Jadian wrote:

Damage conversion is the type of mechanic that applies to hits, but does not apply to damage over time.

Ignite deals Fire Damage over Time. You cannot change it from dealing Fire damage.

The unique ring Blackflame changes the Ignite damage enemies take from Fire to Chaos. However, it's notably not converting the type of damage you deal, so you're still dealing Fire damage...it's just making them take it as Chaos damage.



Long story short: you cannot ignite with Original Sin.

oh that explains it.

shame tho, will never get to experience chaos ignites lol

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exsea wrote:

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Jadian wrote:

Long story short: you cannot ignite with Original Sin.

oh that explains it.

shame tho, will never get to experience chaos ignites lol

Since I screwed up on the short version before: I meant "with Echoforge".

I think you can ignite with Original Sin and Blackflame so the enemies take it as chaos damage. Echoforge was the part making it ignite not work.

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Jadian wrote:

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exsea wrote:

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Jadian wrote:

Long story short: you cannot ignite with Original Sin.

oh that explains it.

shame tho, will never get to experience chaos ignites lol

Since I screwed up on the short version before: I meant "with Echoforge".

I think you can ignite with Original Sin and Blackflame so the enemies take it as chaos damage. Echoforge was the part making it ignite not work.

oh lol, i felt your explanation made sense so i didnt really process your mistake.

yeah you're right on that. original sin and black flame works. actually original sin and anything else that grants ignite MINUS echoforge/starforge/void manipulation works