What Is The Deal With Poison Skills and Assassin Ascendancy Lately?

I'm not talking about Poison Concoction. Never played it but heard it is in a good spot. IIRC, no one uses Assassin for it either.

Almost got excited for Scourge Arrow buff in 3.19 but it seems like throwing a water balloon on a forest fire. The skill is already so clunky to play as is, on top of the Elder mod nerf a few leagues back.

Cobra Lash, last I tried it at least, felt so bad for anything other than general mapping.

I believe poison BV got gutted hard too?

And when it comes to poison everyone and their grandma is Pathfinder. Assassin constantly gets gutted and people tell me never pick it now over PF.

The new poison aoe mark seems severely underpowered if its damage is just based off of ONE poison stack.

Was thinking of coming back this league but feel like I will be disappointed.
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Yeah poison was not very strong even before the elder weapon nerf, which reduced top end damage by maybe 40ish percent?

Only real reason to choose assassin is a crit-based poison approach which has a slightly higher top end than pathfinder, but is weaker until you have your final endgame gear.


Assassin could definitely use a rework.
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trixxar wrote:
Yeah poison was not very strong even before the elder weapon nerf, which reduced top end damage by maybe 40ish percent?

Only real reason to choose assassin is a crit-based poison approach which has a slightly higher top end than pathfinder, but is weaker until you have your final endgame gear.

Assassin could definitely use a rework.


Was thinking of trying Darkscorn bow while I work on gear but I think its static mods were nerfed more than its base dmg was buffed, a couple leagues ago with the bow rework? Most unique bows appeared to have gotten worse. I need to find my old DS bow on standard and compare to new one.

With assassin poison they seem to keep shifting the power away from the ascendancy into Perfect Agony and force Coralito flask now.
I don't get what their vision with poison is supposed to be these days or if worth even trying again.
Poison is just often too hard to balance and constantly forgotten because of how unpopular and boring it is to play.

Same thing with how ignite was complete trash for half a decade unless it was some unintended dynamic and now finally there are some changes here and there for the past year.
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Kiss_Me_Quick wrote:
Poison is just often too hard to balance and constantly forgotten because of how unpopular and boring it is to play.



I get it might be boring for some people but I love it, and ever since the Elder mod nerf people have been bringing the issue up over and over. I understand bleed bow glad was a bit too powerful at some point but I don't think even that is great anymore?

Now next patch they give a whole 5% buff to Scourge Arrow. It honestly feels like they're just trolling.

I've never been a big metaslave and if you like those then more power to you, to blow through the game, but for real...at some point it just gets so frustrating to never see the skills/playstyles you like get little to no attention.
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009Status wrote:
I'm not talking about Poison Concoction. Never played it but heard it is in a good spot. IIRC, no one uses Assassin for it either.

Almost got excited for Scourge Arrow buff in 3.19 but it seems like throwing a water balloon on a forest fire. The skill is already so clunky to play as is, on top of the Elder mod nerf a few leagues back.

Cobra Lash, last I tried it at least, felt so bad for anything other than general mapping.

I believe poison BV got gutted hard too?

And when it comes to poison everyone and their grandma is Pathfinder. Assassin constantly gets gutted and people tell me never pick it now over PF.

The new poison aoe mark seems severely underpowered if its damage is just based off of ONE poison stack.

Was thinking of coming back this league but feel like I will be disappointed.

poison bfbb on an assassin is very strong
New Assassin Ascendancy: All damage types can poison, and damage always poisons. Poison inflicted where the main source is Chaos does 15% more poison damage.




Would open up new archetypes. Its already sort of possible with those boots so it is not crazy OP, but QoL turning on and off madness just sucks.
Last edited by trixxar#2360 on Aug 12, 2022, 7:12:36 PM

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