PSA: Elemental Equilibrium is indiscriminate

Absolutely loving the new passive tree and mastery system. I noticed the update to EE, where instead of applying a mix of bonuses and penalties to the target's resistances, it simply removes certain Exposures while applying others. Seemed like there would be no downside. Decided to give it a go, and rolled an Elemental Hit Raider.

Unfortunately for me, when EE says it will "remove exposure", it's not fooling around. It seems to strip away other sources of exposure as well, including the effects of Avatar of the Veil. Behold, this simple 3 step process:

1) If I approach an enemy with Avatar of the Veil, that enemy's tooltip reads "Vulnerable to Elemental Damage", as one would expect.

2) If I hit an enemy with fire and cold damage while EE is active, the enemy tooltip then reads "Vulnerable to Lightning Damage". It will remain that way for as long as I choose to wait. Presumably, Avatar's Lightning exposure is still in effect, but I have no way to be certain.

3) If I move away from the enemy, then move closer again, the enemy tooltip once again reads "Vulnerable to Elemental Damage". It seems that Avatar only applies its debuff when an enemy first enters the area of effect. It is not refreshed for enemies who remain in the area.

How big of a deal is this, do you think? For that second hit, I would still get lightning exposure from both EE and AoV, but a third hit would strip away all of AoE's effects completely. Is this working as intended? If so, is there a way around it?

Don't get me wrong, I'm having a ton of fun with the build. I'm not angry, so much as bemused and perplexed... it seems like tri-elemental prismatic builds have enough headaches already.

It shouldn’t be an issue with elemental hit rotating elements because you’ll always do a different element from the previous hit.

Isn't exposure a specifig debuff with differend sources not stacking in any way, as in only strongest version is in effect

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Vesuvius079 wrote:

It shouldn’t be an issue with elemental hit rotating elements because you’ll always do a different element from the previous hit.

Elemental Equilibrium works great with Elemental hit, yes. Unfortunately, it deletes part of the Exposure granted by Avatar of the Veil. And when Elemental Hit switches elements, Avatar's exposure doesn't come back. It stays gone.

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Torguemada wrote:

Isn't exposure a specifig debuff with differend sources not stacking in any way, as in only strongest version is in effect

If this is true I'll feel a lot better, since I'm not really losing anything in the first place. But if so, it's still weird that they put EE right next to the Ranger starting area. I just assumed it would be compatible with a Ranger Ascendancy.

Fortunately, the build isn't ruined or anything. I still get lots of love from Trinity Support, a Blasphemy curse, and assorted elemental penetration. They stack just fine.

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YetAnotherScion wrote:

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Vesuvius079 wrote:

It shouldn’t be an issue with elemental hit rotating elements because you’ll always do a different element from the previous hit.

Elemental Equilibrium works great with Elemental hit, yes. Unfortunately, it deletes part of the Exposure granted by Avatar of the Veil. And when Elemental Hit switches elements, Avatar's exposure doesn't come back. It stays gone.

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Torguemada wrote:

Isn't exposure a specifig debuff with differend sources not stacking in any way, as in only strongest version is in effect

If this is true I'll feel a lot better, since I'm not really losing anything in the first place. But if so, it's still weird that they put EE right next to the Ranger starting area. I just assumed it would be compatible with a Ranger Ascendancy.

Fortunately, the build isn't ruined or anything. I still get lots of love from Trinity Support, a Blasphemy curse, and assorted elemental penetration. They stack just fine.

Torguemada is absolutely right in that they don’t stack. This is why it doesn’t matter - EE is the stronger exposure anyway and you’ll always hit them with an exposed element since it never picks the same element twice in a row.

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Vesuvius079 wrote:

Torguemada is absolutely right in that they don’t stack. This is why it doesn’t matter - EE is the stronger exposure anyway and you’ll always hit them with an exposed element since it never picks the same element twice in a row.

Thanks very much! It's a relief to know this for sure.

While we're at it, can I safely assume that EE has no effect the first time you hit an enemy? That you have to hit them once, and only subsequent hits benefit from the Exposure? If all my enemies die in one hit, Avatar is the better choice.

If I ever one-shot Shaper, I'll be sure to let everyone know. :P

Running both Avatar and EE is the best way. EE doesn't benefit or harm your first hit in any way. But you'll get Avatar's exposure on that first hit, then EE's stronger exposure will take over on subsequent hits.

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aggromagnet wrote:

Running both Avatar and EE is the best way. EE doesn't benefit or harm your first hit in any way. But you'll get Avatar's exposure on that first hit, then EE's stronger exposure will take over on subsequent hits.

Thanks very much for clarifying! I was kind of looking for any excuse to use both at once, anyways.