Publishing the patch notes with the announcement was a fantastic idea.... but if you really wanted to give the community sufficient time to theorycraft before launch, you would have made sure PoB developers had finished incorporating the 3.16 changes.
On that subject, there is literally zero reasons why PoB should not be incorporated into the game officially. I do not know any players (besides newbies) who don't use PoB.
I'm curious if I'm in a bubble or are there actually experienced players out there who don't use it.
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Posted bySleepyXtreme#6776on Oct 15, 2021, 3:18:51 PM
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If you listened to the announcement live stream, Chris is definitely not impressed with PoB, and I dont think GGG really cares when in the slightest about 3rd party tools.
He said they are working on some better, internal version, but god only knows when that is coming.
Sadly its the players that suffer, but it is what it is.
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
- Abraham Lincoln
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Posted byDarthSki44#6905on Oct 15, 2021, 3:46:37 PMOn Probation
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Whatever did we do before PoB came along?
~ Mostly an SSF player.
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Posted byBasilWood#4500on Oct 15, 2021, 6:14:00 PM
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DarthSki44 wrote:
If you listened to the announcement live stream, Chris is definitely not impressed with PoB, and I dont think GGG really cares when in the slightest about 3rd party tools.
He said they are working on some better, internal version, but god only knows when that is coming.
Sadly its the players that suffer, but it is what it is.
Well if they would just tell us real information ingame, we wouldnt need it.
I love how ingame my tooltip will say 30,0000 but my ACTUAL damage will be 10,000,000.
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Posted bySleepyXtreme#6776on Oct 15, 2021, 6:26:00 PM
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SleepyXtreme wrote:
Publishing the patch notes with the announcement was a fantastic idea.... but if you really wanted to give the community sufficient time to theorycraft before launch, you would have made sure PoB developers had finished incorporating the 3.16 changes.
On that subject, there is literally zero reasons why PoB should not be incorporated into the game officially. I do not know any players (besides newbies) who don't use PoB.
I'm curious if I'm in a bubble or are there actually experienced players out there who don't use it.
I don't use it. I seriously can't remember the last time I opened it up. Early 3.0 perhaps?
The game is more than doable without, you just sometimes go off the rails and things don't work out with a build. But I've found that if you've played the game long enough, the tree and how builds come together is fairly straight forward.
I'm not the best player by a long shot, but I think I graduated from newbie somewhere in the mid-2010's.
Thanks for all the fish! Last edited by Nubatron#4333 on Oct 15, 2021, 6:32:56 PM
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Posted byNubatron#4333on Oct 15, 2021, 6:31:55 PM
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Nubatron wrote:
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SleepyXtreme wrote:
Publishing the patch notes with the announcement was a fantastic idea.... but if you really wanted to give the community sufficient time to theorycraft before launch, you would have made sure PoB developers had finished incorporating the 3.16 changes.
On that subject, there is literally zero reasons why PoB should not be incorporated into the game officially. I do not know any players (besides newbies) who don't use PoB.
I'm curious if I'm in a bubble or are there actually experienced players out there who don't use it.
I don't use it. I seriously can't remember the last time I opened it up. Early 3.0 perhaps?
The game is more than doable without, you just sometimes go off the rails and things don't work out with a build. But I've found that if you've played the game long enough, the tree and how builds come together is fairly straight forward.
I'm not the best player by a long shot, but I think I graduated from newbie somewhere in the mid-2010's.
Idk, no offense, I took a quick look at the gear on your chars and most of it is junk. I'd be surprised if you could any endgame bosses with any of your chars unless I skimmed too fast and missed a good one.
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Posted bySleepyXtreme#6776on Oct 15, 2021, 10:14:13 PM
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SleepyXtreme wrote:
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DarthSki44 wrote:
If you listened to the announcement live stream, Chris is definitely not impressed with PoB, and I dont think GGG really cares when in the slightest about 3rd party tools.
He said they are working on some better, internal version, but god only knows when that is coming.
Sadly its the players that suffer, but it is what it is.
Well if they would just tell us real information ingame, we wouldnt need it.
I love how ingame my tooltip will say 30,0000 but my ACTUAL damage will be 10,000,000.
Except that just isn't really possible. So much of the multiplicative things that scale your damage are conditional buffs you have when you are in combat, debuffs that are applied, and the variable defensives the thing you are DPSing has. In other words things the tooltip can't track or even if it did you wouldn't see unless you were mousing over the tooltip while you were fighting.
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Posted byHackusations#2294on Oct 16, 2021, 1:38:43 AM
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POB developers right now:

8 mod maps are the new alch and go.
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Posted byzakalwe55#2432on Oct 16, 2021, 2:15:35 AM
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I am waiting, waiting...gonna buy new supporter pack when PoB is updated and compare my league starter build pre- and post-patch changes. :)
Slow down for a minute to enjoy the beauty around us.
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Posted bycanilaz_#3454on Oct 16, 2021, 3:09:21 AM
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Except that just isn't really possible. So much of the multiplicative things that scale your damage are conditional buffs you have when you are in combat, debuffs that are applied, and the variable defensives the thing you are DPSing has. In other words things the tooltip can't track or even if it did you wouldn't see unless you were mousing over the tooltip while you were fighting.
It is very simple - target dummy.
I read somewhere it is already coded into the game but is disabled.
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Posted bySrazilla#4724on Oct 16, 2021, 3:23:52 AM
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