Does Queen Atziri in the temple of Atzoatl have innate reflect?

Died 4 times on that bitch, died every time I hit her. Nothing in the whole temple had phys reflect, but she for some reason had it. Is it normal?

If no, please, fix that. It's so uncalled for. if yes, then why? Why, GGG?

Before you say that I'm dumb, yes, I know about the copy with a mirror, I was doing that phase just fine, I'm talking about the normal phase, without copies.
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even normal Atziri has Reflect, so it is expected that the temple Atziri has reflect aswell.

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from wiki
Passive Effect: Damage Reflection

2% of Physical Damage taken reflected to Attacker
2% of Elemental Damage taken reflected to Attacker
Ok, thanks. In that case, i'd be great to have that information (that it's the uber version) in the room description
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drklrd wrote:
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TeModen wrote:
Ok, thanks. In that case, i'd be great to have that information (that it's the uber version) in the room description


I mean... It's kinda obvious it's harder than normal atziri. I just took it for granted.

"Atziri, Queen of the Vaal can be deadly in this encounter due to both Temple-wide modifiers and the area level, which can be as high as level 83 (the same tier as the Shaper's Guardians Maps). For comparison The Alluring Abyss, often referred to as "Uber Atziri", is level 80."


yeah, but this is from viki. I mean, uber atziri having innate reflect is fine, she's UBER after all, but uncalled and unmentioned reflect in the temple? Every other "ran-by-casuals" content had all unexpected reflect removed looooooong time ago. Temple is casual, why does it have unmentioned reflect?
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drklrd wrote:
Ok. Let me try another way.

How did you know that Atziri's mirror version does reflect?

Now apply that answer to your previous post.


Because I've ran her in the past. But you have a good point. Not in a way that it somehow invalidates my previous post, but rather pushes it even further. Why the hell even have atziri in the temple? Her mechanics are not obvious and temple is for casuals.

Edit: trying to formulate the point a bit better: there's absolutely nothing in the temple that some builds can't run. Every build can run temple... apart from atziri. atziri is an optional sideboss that not every build can handle, why add her as a part of casual content?
Last edited by TeModen#2916 on Oct 31, 2020, 11:39:56 AM
never ever have i contested her fitting in the temple thematically, buy gameplaywise she's a bit out of hand for this kind of content
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In delirium, my build did so much damage that even normal atziri's passive reflect would instantly kill me. Was real fun.

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