Challenges - Aren't challenges, they are purchases

Challenges are supposed to be something that is difficult to do. Difficult for YOU to do and should be equally obtainable in any league.

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With 3.11.0, there are Standard, Hardcore and Solo Self-Found variations of the Harvest challenge league available. They have the same core mechanics and items. You can create private league versions of these leagues, with mods that make the game harder.

The new challenge leagues include a set of 40 new challenges. When you complete 12 challenges, you will receive the Harvest Footprints. When you reach 24 challenges, you will receive the Harvest Cloak. At 36 challenges completed you'll receive the Harvest Portal. These microtransactions are only obtainable in this league.

The variations, they shouldn't make the challenges more limited. The challenge should be on can you do it, not can you find it. There's no benefit for completing the same challenges in more challenging leagues, it just limits your chances of completing them.

I'd say the stand out example from this league would be the 'Winged Scarabs' just use 14 of them right, sure if you're on trade you just buy them all and pop them in. You don't even need to run the map, just buy and use. Where's the challenge? Can you earn enough money to purchase these? It's unfortunate to see a missed opportunity, if the focus was on 'Winged Scarab's' then just say to upgrade 14 with a horticulture machine. Now you need to plant the seed, grow it to maturity, kill the monster created, and then use the craft. That's the spirit of the challenge but with the challenge actually present.

Overall looking at the 40 challenges there's at least 7 of them that cater to being within a trade styled league. (13, 16, 21, 26, 32, 33, 35) That's 17.5% of the challenges that are given away to trade league and made much more challenging in SSF. Some say to just use divination cards, others are for upgrading uniques or running unique maps.

I have also noticed some good things, that a lot of these challenges have been used as teaching tools to remind players of mechanics they were unaware of. IE Upgrade Unique Items, Vendor. I began thinking 'Loreweave' and cringed, then I looked deeper to see there's other options like 'Hyrri's Bite' that would make my accomplishing the task easier and educational as I could have created one during my league start. These challenges I really appreciate you adding in because they do add value along with being a challenge. They get us looking back into the game to find ways of getting our rewards that we chase. But then there's the opposite side of the coin within the same challenge. Use an Incursion Vial, I'd now have to live in The Temple of Atzoatl to get the unique and the vial. Trade players just buy both and done. If you want us to live in The Temple of Atzoatl then make us kill the Vaal Omnitect 'X' number of times just like you did with other content (#22 breach, legion, metamorph, harbinger)

I don't want this post to be misunderstood that challenges should be easier, they shouldn't be, they should be challenging for us all. Every player should have an equal opportunity to complete these challenges for their rewards regardless of the league chosen and an equal difficulty to accomplish them. OR there should be different cosmetics for those players that accomplish the same challenges with higher levels of difficulty. I'm assuming that would be much more challenging to implement multi rewards than to balance the challenges but I'd be excited for either. We need to have one or the other if we want to consider these 'challenges'. If the only 'solution' to this problem is to "just play trade then LUL" then I think that let's the problem speak for itself and is a bit depressing and demoralizing. Two things you don't tend to associate with challenges that offer rewards.

This has been on my mind for a few seasons now, seems to always be occurring, will it ever stop...probably not. But I had to voice my thoughts to see if any of you out there agree that the fairness is skewed here and if we should try to do something about it. I'm sure the trade community is larger and less keen on this idea so I'm not expecting many fighters in my corner. Thanks to anyone that took the time to read this all regardless to the side of the fence you're on.

All the best Exiles!!

If this bothers you, then play SSF and ignore it.

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Shagsbeard wrote:

If this bothers you, then play SSF and ignore it.

Thats why the complaint, in ssf u cant buy challanges

But anyway, thats your choice to play trade game in ssf, when u started to play ssf that means u want to play the game not the way its balanced, so why u complaining challanges not being fair about?