Warcry's exert buff on counter melee attacks

I wanted to have my counter attacks (Reckoning, Riposte, Vengeance) have to use the exert buff from Infernal Cry.

All information i found on exert buff is, it can not be used with channeled, vaal or repeaded attacks. Bus since the counter skills are not of those categorie, there is eather a description missing for "triggered attacks can not be exerted" or it should work.
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Also running into this issue. Some clarification on whether or not it's intended for counter attacks to be unaffected by exerted attacks would be great.
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ikarigendo wrote:
I wanted to have my counter attacks (Reckoning, Riposte, Vengeance) have to use the exert buff from Infernal Cry.

All information i found on exert buff is, it can not be used with channeled, vaal or repeaded attacks. Bus since the counter skills are not of those categorie, there is eather a description missing for "triggered attacks can not be exerted" or it should work.

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Exerts next # Melee Attacks you perform

Triggered attack doesn't count as such.

Same as triggered spells aren't ones "you cast"
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If this is suppose to not work, it needs to be made clear.

On my opinion counter attacks are performed by the character itself, there is no proxy involved, like totem or minion, which does the attack. Curse on Hit for example needs to have a charakter attack to work as well and it work together with counter attacks, in addition to other on hit or even on kill effects. Based on those mechanics it would only be normal to have the exert buff (which is a on hit effect) work together with counter effect like all other on hit effecs.
Last edited by ikarigendo#4028 on Jun 22, 2020, 7:05:32 PM
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ikarigendo wrote:
If this is suppose to not work, it needs to be made clear.

On my opinion counter attacks are performed by the character itself, there is no proxy involved, like totem or minion, which does the attack. Curse on Hit for example needs to have a charakter attack to work as well and it work together with counter attacks, in addition to other on hit or even on kill effects. Based on those mechanics it would only be normal to have the exert buff (which is a on hit effect) work together with counter effect like all other on hit effecs.

1) You didn't attack.
Skill was triggered and is triggered, not "performed by you".

2) Curse on Hit is bad example.
Wording is different
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Must support both a skill that hits enemies, and a curse skill to work.

The curse will be applied when enemies are hit by the other skill.

Cannot support totems, traps, or mines. Minions cannot apply curses this way.

and "hit" is the only requirement.

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1) You didn't attack.

Even if the attack is triggered the gem, it has the attack and melee tag, therefor i count it as an "attack" which the character itself "performs"

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3a) If you don't like something - doesn't mean it's wrong or working in a wrong way
3b) Post a suggestion in Feedback forum section


This isn't about what i like. The term Perform is just not well enough defined.

The perform attack term is even in the short description of the Vengeance gem:
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Chance to perform a swift counter-attack against all enemies around you when you are hit. Weapon range increases the area of this attack. Requires a Melee Weapon.


This would again lead to the direction it should work together or explicitly be descriped as not working. Could some official GGG-Member give a clarification here how the game developer judges this case ?
Last edited by ikarigendo#4028 on Jun 23, 2020, 1:13:45 PM

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