Australian professors react to India's toughest exam.

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I quite liked the response at https://youtu.be/0h_x13xHjVs?t=375. His criticism of the time constraints not allowing for 'telling a story' of how to reach the answer is very valid.

I never really liked timed exams. Great for forcing straight-line, pressured problem-solving and testing rote learning, terrible for organic pedagogy that really sinks in, which is much more pertinent for tertiary-level education.

Give me a paper submission I can fine-tune and polish over a rushed sit-down exam any day. I did SO much better at university than I did in high school, to the point where I was getting distinctions and high distinctions (85%+) for essays and presentations that were far, far more complex and incisive than things I barely passed in High School a few years before. A simple anecdotal stance against the efficacy of pressure-cooker style, rote-learning examination, something several of the Australian academics in the video criticise as well.

edit: her video about quitting her PhD is giving me hardcore flashbacks to how I felt when I did the same. It's so easy to believe that 9/10ths of all PhDs are abandoned once you've given it a go.

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Last edited by Foreverhappychan#4626 on Apr 2, 2020, 3:46:08 AM
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Foreverhappychan wrote:


I never really liked timed exams. Great for forcing straight-line, pressured problem-solving and testing rote learning, terrible for organic pedagogy that really sinks in, which is much more pertinent for tertiary-level education.




Reminds me of engineering at university before I switched to physics. I really wasn't learning anything at engineering, the only thing they teach you there is to be a good robot. Maybe it is changed nowadays, I don't know.
Heart of Purity

Awarded 'Silverblade' to Talent Competition Winner 2020.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDFO4E5OKSE
ign: Reinhart
I didn´t understand anything they said.
Yes, engineering is a pretty big transhumanist book of robotics with wifi.
Yes, exams follow the rule of P=E/t.
If you want to invent a fusionreactor you can do that in your spare time.


I also wonder how my language teachers hold up nowadays, i had to write too many "How to change the tires of a car"-essays which followed a strict rule of things to follow according to, well you know our paperworks, these teachers will surely find a practical solution with all the mechanics now on lockdown.
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Last edited by Lachdanan#4036 on Apr 2, 2020, 6:19:09 AM
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Foreverhappychan wrote:
I quite liked the response at https://youtu.be/0h_x13xHjVs?t=375. His criticism of the time constraints not allowing for 'telling a story' of how to reach the answer is very valid.

I never really liked timed exams. Great for forcing straight-line, pressured problem-solving and testing rote learning, terrible for organic pedagogy that really sinks in, which is much more pertinent for tertiary-level education.

Give me a paper submission I can fine-tune and polish over a rushed sit-down exam any day. I did SO much better at university than I did in high school, to the point where I was getting distinctions and high distinctions (85%+) for essays and presentations that were far, far more complex and incisive than things I barely passed in High School a few years before. A simple anecdotal stance against the efficacy of pressure-cooker style, rote-learning examination, something several of the Australian academics in the video criticise as well.

edit: her video about quitting her PhD is giving me hardcore flashbacks to how I felt when I did the same. It's so easy to believe that 9/10ths of all PhDs are abandoned once you've given it a go.


so at one famous undergrad CS weeder course at a famous university, we always had open book exams (should tell you how difficult those exams were - they never tested what you were repeating, rather the next step).

the professor at the time told us a story that he tried to do final exams with virtually no time limit. what it resulted in that exam started at 5pm. at 9pm they got kicked out of the lecture hall, they went to another. at midnight he had to call time, and the few students who were still around admitted they at that point just stayed there to mess with him.


this obviously was back before smartphones were a thing and stack overflow (the site) wasnt really a thing. but anyway, story is after that experience, he never instituted exams without concrete time limits (usually no more than 2 hours)
Oh I get the point of them logistically. Absolutely. I just don't *like* them.
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