Sirus lore (final boss fight spoilers)

So, after the fight Zana has line "I'm sorry, Sirus, this was all my fault. I'm sorry, I'm so, so, sorry".

Who exactly was Sirus?

It looks that he was different from other bosses, as Zana personally joins the fight with him, and tells that "we want to help you", like she did with Shaper, who was her father.

Is he Zana's brother or uncle?

As far as I know, there are no new lore about bosses, except for Zana's dialogues and their dialogues during the boss fight.

Before he was confirmed to be male I thought it would be Zana herself, but I guess now it’s not the case.
prob just some level 100exile who got bored of the game

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Thessalonica wrote:

prob just some level 100exile who got bored of the game

His lines suggest that so.
"Finally, a challenge".
"At least I felt something" after his defeat.

But I wonder why Zana said that it's all her fault and she's sorry after his defeat.

Maybe he is the leader, because in a dialogue Zana commented Dorx was a commander and not a leader.
He seems to not care about atlas in general and tells players can have the atlas.

Maybe when the Zana group did the Elder, Sirus was banished along with elder, like you know, locked in combat and did a noble sacrifice. So when Zana did the worm hole thingy it sucked them both in.
Given that is the only real offensive action Zana ever took, it would be the part where she screwed up this making it her fault.
Sirus’s lines like “feel the thrill of the void” somewhat supports this.

This also would explain why the exiles kept going back.(to find their leader ofc) and also explain the group fall apart- because they are now leaderless and wanna do their own thing their own way and because they don’t like Zana much for sending the Leader along with the Elder Into the warp.

So by the time the exiles found Sirus or when Sirus came back to atlas himself they have gone insane(with JoJo Stand powers)

Thus Zana did a thing and locked them into the atlas.

And the reason Zana locks her inside there as well is becaus her dad is Atlas and her dad being Shaper, who have pieces of him turned into watch stones and stuff so she maybe wanna recover the shaper.

Which would be reasonable because shaper has a goood deal of influence on atlas and could un-crazy or kill the now insane exiles anyways because Shaper is pretty strong(now68millionhp)

Given how GGG likes to refer maps as dream stuff (see dream within a dream achievement), Sirus was prolly being bombarded by dreams of every living human being(cus humans dream things) so he got bat shit insane about it so the first thing he does when he got out of atlas is to burn the largest human concentration place possible- Oriath



Just my head canon tho

I really like the flavor of the new Conquerors. They are pretty much Nietzschean Ubermensche who are enforcing their will onto physical reality. Some of the lines from the brother conqueror are very close paraphrases from Nietzsche's Beyond Good and Evil.

This isn't the first time either. Many of The Shaper's quotes are paraphrases of Nietzsche. The Shaper had the added bonus of being in an eternal struggle between The Elder who represented the inevitability of death. The Elder was a personification of the Abyss of despair people can fall into with the death of God. The Last Men who have failed to progress into Ubermensch and have instead fallen into hedonistic nihilism.

On the other hand, The Shaper chooses to fight the coming darkness. When faced with the absence of value and meaning (there is a reason this is the name of the arena you fight The Elder in) in our world he decides to create his own order to combat the chaos of a godless universe. He shapes the world to enforce his order.

Whoever writes the lore at GGG is a big fan of Nietzsche. It is one of the things I truly love about this game.

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Fluffy_Puppies wrote:

I really like the flavor of the new Conquerors. They are pretty much Nietzschean Ubermensche who are enforcing their will onto physical reality. Some of the lines from the brother conqueror are very close paraphrases from Nietzsche's Beyond Good and Evil.

This isn't the first time either. Many of The Shaper's quotes are paraphrases of Nietzsche. The Shaper had the added bonus of being in an eternal struggle between The Elder who represented the inevitability of death. The Elder was a personification of the Abyss of despair people can fall into with the death of God. The Last Men who have failed to progress into Ubermensch and have instead fallen into hedonistic nihilism.

On the other hand, The Shaper chooses to fight the coming darkness. When faced with the absence of value and meaning (there is a reason this is the name of the arena you fight The Elder in) in our world he decides to create his own order to combat the chaos of a godless universe. He shapes the world to enforce his order.

Whoever writes the lore at GGG is a big fan of Nietzsche. It is one of the things I truly love about this game.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm...

Would certainly explain some things.

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DarkRanger4 wrote:

Is he Zana's brother or uncle?

Pretty sure he's her lover. When Zana talks about Sirus, she says, "We grew... close" or something along those lines. https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Sirus,_Awakener_of_Worlds