Game of thrones thread go! [ S8 ]

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I_NO wrote:

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I honestly wish Cersei should of suffered more it's unfortunate that a fucking cave in kills her how boring

Well, Dany killed more people, and she got to die with nothing more than a quick jab of a knife.

On a related note, how do you think the HBO execs feel?

Lol, you know, when I type HBONow into my address bar, the first thing that pops up in google search is "GoT is over: How to cancel your HBONow Subscription".

I know it only cost me one month to watch these 6 episodes. I waited until Long Night, activated, watched 3, watched these 3, then canceled.

You would think they would have had something ready to go after it just incase the fallout happened for a bad season.

I bet they would have loved 10 episodes; especially now. They could have at least tied people on for possibly 3 months of sub. Now, with a free trial, most people not only knocked GoT out in 1, they rage cancelled out of spite, too.

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Destructodave wrote:

Is that not the Game of Thrones way, though? Tywin dying on the toilet, Drogo being poisoned, etc.

I thought one of the major points of the show is you dont get the pay-offs you wanted. That's why my earlier point about how people like all that "subverted" stuff during the build-up, but when it comes to the end, we need those classic tropes to be satisfied.

And I agree, lol. I wanted some pay-offs. The only pay-off we got was the Clegane Bowl, and that's probably because it wasn't in the books, lol. That was something they could play with.

There are good and bad ways to do subversions. Plenty of shows, GoT included, have subverted expectations, and been successful for it. Some have even had major twists saved for their endings. This season isn't bad because it did or didn't adhere to tropes, or even because it did or didn't adhere to whatever outline Martin gave D&D. It's bad because they've evidently no idea how to go about subverting expectations cleverly, or in other words cos they're just plain bad writers. A clever subversion gets the audience to spit milk initially, but then go "Ooohhhh!..." afterwards. People aren't doing that here - they're just spitting said milk (at first, they were probably just rolling their eyes by the last couple episodes), then thinking about it more, realizing it's still stupid, and then going online to write angry reviews. That's not cos the show didn't respect tropes, or the books, it's cos it had no idea how to write well. Not well by the books, but well by its own already simplified narrative.

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Exile009 wrote:

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Destructodave wrote:

Is that not the Game of Thrones way, though? Tywin dying on the toilet, Drogo being poisoned, etc.

I thought one of the major points of the show is you dont get the pay-offs you wanted. That's why my earlier point about how people like all that "subverted" stuff during the build-up, but when it comes to the end, we need those classic tropes to be satisfied.

And I agree, lol. I wanted some pay-offs. The only pay-off we got was the Clegane Bowl, and that's probably because it wasn't in the books, lol. That was something they could play with.

There are good and bad ways to do subversions. Plenty of shows, GoT included, have subverted expectations, and been successful for it. Some have even had major twists saved for their endings. This season isn't bad because it did or didn't adhere to tropes, or even because it did or didn't adhere to whatever outline Martin gave D&D. It's bad because they've evidently no idea how to go about subverting expectations cleverly, or in other words cos they're just plain bad writers. A clever subversion gets the audience to spit milk initially, but then go "Ooohhhh!..." afterwards. People aren't doing that here - they're just spitting said milk (at first, they were probably just rolling their eyes by the last couple episodes), then thinking about it more, realizing it's still stupid, and then going online to write angry reviews. That's not cos the show didn't respect tropes, or the books, it's cos it had no idea how to write well. Not well by the books, but well by its own already simplified narrative.

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Hell, there's versions of Arya killing the Night King that would've been cleverer (like using her disguises). There's versions of Bran becoming king that would've made more sense (mostly by having him actually have done something before to get all that support). There's versions of Dany going nuts and burning the city that wouldn't have seemed forced. And I'm only talking of ideas that could've fit into the same length of time (one episode), btw, as I'm no fan of the excuse that the show just needed more time.

I honestly dont even think they are that bad at writing. Season 1-4 showed that when they had some source material to draw from. They even had the wherewithal to save fan favorite characters like the Hound.

If they had source material, they showed they could put something quality on screen, and even improve on it in some aspects. But once they ran out of source material, it fell off the wheels. Thats why I think GRRM needs some blame for how poorly these last few seasons were. At the very least, these guys should have been able to get together and work together in some way to avoid some of the shitshow that has happened.

They are TV writers who have to get something on the screen in like a year tops. Thats written, acted, shot, CGI, everything. Thats a damn tall order when the original writer can't even write the next book in the series before the entire show is over.

I honestly wonder what the bullet points looked like they had to work with. Lol, for whatever reason, I'm just imagining GRRM being like some of my old college group project members. I remember this one guy. We had a business presentation. It was a 10 page report + presentation. This guy sends me, at 11pm, 1 page with a picture on it that says, "This is where the seating will be." And was the blueprint of the room. Next page, was "This is the capacity of the building." To something of that affect I cant remember. It was another full page picture. I sent him an email said dude, thats 2 sentences, and pictures cannot be more than 2x2 inches. He says, "Damn bro my bad. I can't write reports." So of course I stayed up all night fixing it.

Anyways, for whatever reason, thats what I feel like the bullet points GRRM left them were. I wonder how last minute it was, too. "Dany gets stabbed by Jon." "Jon goes back North."

I'm still sticking to my opinion that GRRM deserves as much blame for these past seasons as the TV writers do. They are under a ton of pressure to get something done, while hes doing fuck all and running around like a rockstar basking in the glory of it.

Well i know it's a matter of tastes but i felt bored during the whole ending.
I've a curse with that, most of shows i enjoyed these past 30 years had "poor" ending i assume it's not an easy task ...
Will recognize this one make sense at least :)

Unfortunately like with every other child actor you gotta throw the dice. They threw it with Sansa and won big time. Arya and Bran.........not so much.

8th serie was great. From E2 it was superb. Fantasy movie at its best.

Kinda curious how they revealed his heritage but did absolutely nothing with it. Its like lets confirm the most popular theory in the fandom, this should be enough, fanservice ahoy!

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鬼殺し wrote:

Loving the memes about all the shit d and d forgot too.

Those are the best!