Why do people get vaccines? Don't they research the ingredients?

Holy moly. German Judicial Robes are a bit measelly, in themselves.

[DIABOLICAL LAUGHTER]

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鬼殺し wrote:

Lanka took him to court and won because of insufficient evidence.

German here. This is still misrepresented. The federal court "just" ruled that it is not their job to decide who has won. It is on Lanka to decide whether his rules are followed (and he decided to re-interpret his rules on-the-fly via : "the evidence must be contained in a single publication", which is allowed by a very clever interpretation of the exact wording)

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鬼殺し wrote:

I'm done with the matter.

Time well wasted.

:D

Peace,

-Boem-

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Boem wrote:

Time well wasted.

The Dr.'s point I think was to show that the measles virus has never been isolated. I found this interesting. That the original paper from 1954 only describes "cell particles" not an actual virus and no paper since isolates a measle virus and only uses these cell particles. Rather strange way to practice science. Especially since these cell particles exist in all our body cells. So what is the vaccine vaccinating against.... your own cell bits?

It was difficult to search this out as most info is in German. That article was also copy-pasted in many different places. It wouldn't have mattered what site I linked to.

As to whether or not you would see this in the standard media if it was important.... are you serious. It would break the system and the system must be followed without question. Let there be no deviation, no questions, no debate, no change, because the system is perfect. We know everything. The government loves you and would never do anything to harm you. Corporations only want to help you. They don't want you to get sick. They are giving you cures for all that ails you.

PS. Commentary is late in arriving due to internet outage.

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HermitDragon wrote:

The Dr.'s point I think was to show that the measles virus has never been isolated. I found this interesting. That the original paper from 1954 only describes "cell particles" not an actual virus and no paper since isolates a measle virus and only uses these cell particles. Rather strange way to practice science. Especially since these cell particles exist in all our body cells. So what is the vaccine vaccinating against.... your own cell bits?

It was difficult to search this out as most info is in German. That article was also copy-pasted in many different places. It wouldn't have mattered what site I linked to.

As to whether or not you would see this in the standard media if it was important.... are you serious. It would break the system and the system must be followed without question. Let there be no deviation, no questions, no debate, no change, because the system is perfect. We know everything. The government loves you and would never do anything to harm you. Corporations only want to help you. They don't want you to get sick. They are giving you cures for all that ails you.

PS. Commentary is late in arriving due to internet outage.

Viruses are made by the host cells that they invade. So, yes, technically they are reproduced and made by the host cell bits that they invade.

A good quote from a friend:

"So people get vaccinated because they say (wrongly think) that the vaccine protects them from the measles, chicken pox, polio etc, basically whatever they have been vaccinated against.........that is correct right? that is the ONLY reason why people vaccinate at all.............that is the apparent "purpose" of them..............

ok........here are some facts that you should really consider if you believe they protect you........all the sources are next to them, you can check them yourself, they even come from the "peer reviewed medical journals" you are always banging on about, even though people who shout this the most, have never read a single study.........they just like to pretend they know..........here we go, suck it buttercups.............TRUTH BOMB

- In 1871-2, England, with 98% of the population aged between 2 and 50 vaccinated against smallpox, it experienced its worst ever smallpox outbreak with 45,000 deaths. During the same period in Germany, with a vaccination rate of 96%, there were over 125,000 deaths from smallpox. ( The Hadwen Documents)

- In Germany, compulsory mass vaccination against diphtheria commenced in 1940 and by 1945 diphtheria cases were up from 40,000 to 250,000. (Don't Get Stuck, Hannah Allen)

- In the USA in 1960, two virologists discovered that both polio vaccines were contaminated with the SV 40 virus which causes cancer in animals as well as changes in human cell tissue cultures. Millions of children had been injected with these vaccines. (Med Jnl of Australia 17/3/1973 p555)

- In 1967, Ghana was declared measles free by the World Health Organisation after 96% of its population was vaccinated. In 1972, Ghana experienced one of its worst measles outbreaks with its highest ever mortality rate. (Dr H Albonico, MMR Vaccine Campaign in Switzerland, March 1990)

- In the UK between 1970 and 1990, over 200,000 cases of whooping cough occurred in fully vaccinated children. (Community Disease Surveillance Centre, UK)

- In the 1970's a tuberculosis vaccine trial in India involving 260,000 people revealed that more cases of TB occurred in the vaccinated than the unvaccinated. (The Lancet 12/1/80 p73)

- In 1977, Dr Jonas Salk who developed the first polio vaccine, testified along with other scientists, that mass inoculation against polio was the cause of most polio cases throughout the USA since 1961. (Science 4/4/77 "Abstracts" )

- In 1978, a survey of 30 States in the US revealed that more than half of the children who contracted measles had been adequately vaccinated. (The People's Doctor, Dr R Mendelsohn)

- In 1979, Sweden abandoned the whooping cough vaccine due to its ineffectiveness. Out of 5,140 cases in 1978, it was found that 84% had been vaccinated three times! (BMJ 283:696-697, 1981)

-The February 1981 issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association found that 90% of obstetricians and 66% of pediatricians refused to take the rubella vaccine.

- In the USA, the cost of a single DPT shot had risen from 11 cents in 1982 to $11.40 in 1987. The manufacturers of the vaccine were putting aside $8 per shot to cover legal costs and damages they were paying out to parents of brain damaged children and children who died after vaccination. (The Vine, Issue 7, January 1994, Nambour, Qld)

- In Oman between 1988 and 1989, a polio outbreak occurred amongst thousands of fully vaccinated children. The region with the highest attack rate had the highest vaccine coverage. The region with the lowest attack rate had the lowest vaccine coverage. (The Lancet, 21/9/91)

- In 1990, a UK survey involving 598 doctors revealed that over 50% of them refused to have the Hepatitis B vaccine despite belonging to the high risk group urged to be vaccinated. (British Med Jnl, 27/1/1990)

- In 1990, the Journal of the American Medical Association had an article on measles which stated " Although more than 95% of school-aged children in the US are vaccinated against measles, large measles outbreaks continue to occur in schools and most cases in this setting occur among previously vaccinated children." (JAMA, 21/11/90)

- In the USA, from July 1990 to November 1993, the US Food and Drug Administration counted a total of 54,072 adverse reactions following vaccination. The FDA admitted that this number represented only 10% of the real total, because most doctors were refusing to report vaccine injuries. In other words, adverse reactions for this period exceeded half a million! (National Vaccine Information Centre, March 2, 1994)

- In the New England Journal of Medicine July 1994 issue a study found that over 80% of children under 5 years of age who had contracted whooping cough had been fully vaccinated.

- On November 2nd, 2000, the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) announced that its members voted at their 57th annual meeting in St Louis to pass a resolution calling for an end to mandatory childhood vaccines. The resolution passed without a single "no" vote. (Report by Michael Devitt)"

And I'm sure half of that can be easily debunked by a quick research.