Scion - [3.15] For Scion - Ngamahu's Flame Cyclone / Consecrated Path / Tectonic Slam - Forum

" This build is a spin off from the Slayer version. Kudos to @Ezevade's tweak (from Elementalist to Raider and +1 Frenzy charge) to the build, the build is now final. I have been testing Scion class in patch 3.0 and since a number of players have asked me if Slayer version will work for Scion. Here it is. The following information should be enough for people who want to farm Uber lab all day long as a Scion. " No obligation but if you want to show your appreciation, you can _____________________________________________________________________________ My Builds Slayer " Cyclone: Ngamahu Cyclone Build (Uber Lab Runner, End Game Viable) Scion " Cyclone: Ngamahu's Flame Cyclone (Uber Lab Runner, End Game Viable as Slayer & Raider) Blade Vortex: Dual Curse Crit. Based Blade Vortex as Elementalist + Assassin (SSF Viable) Cyclone: Bloody Explosion With Disfavour + Haemophilia Cyclone (Not a Vaal Pact Build) Cyclone + Blade Flurry + Frost Blades: Goddess Sword Spinning in Flurry Infernal Blow + Shield Charge + Cyclone: One Punch Girl With Rigwald's Curse + Facebreaker + Lycosidae Chieftain " Cyclone: Ngamahu Overloaded (Another Ngamahu's Flame Cyclone Build) Berserker " Vaal Double Strike: Raging Double Striker (Kitava's Feast) _____________________________________________________________________________ Uber Lab Clear Spoiler Thank you @ezevade for providing the Uber Lab screenshot. " The Uber lab run was made using gears moved over from his Slayer character (except the rings, his character level is too low to equip them). At level 70, Scion's Cyclone damage is already at the same level as his level 90 Slayer. Videos of T16+ Map Clear By @Ezevade Spoiler Thank you @ezevade for providing guardian kill videos! " Scion was level 80 when these videos were made. Chimera Boss Full Run Minotaur Boss Kill Phoenix Boss Kill Hydra Boss Kill Video of Deathless Shaper Kill By @Ezevade Spoiler " NOTE: Phase 3 fight is completed without relying on Ancestral Warchief's Culling Strike. Pastebin profile for his Shaper kill setup. " Video of Deathless Shaper Kill Offense Stats Cyclone Damage: Golem + Herald of Ash Only " Cyclone Damage: Golem + Herald of Ash + Wise Oak + Taste of Hate + Lion's Roar + Dying Sun + Warchief + Blood Rage (Full combo without Frenzy charges) " Molten Burst: Golem + Herald of Ash Only " Defense Stats Required Gears Spoiler " Free Molten Burst that does impressive damage with huge AOE granting high clear speed. Requires 0 link. You just want to pop support gems into this weapon to buff Molten Burst. Recommended Gears Spoiler " Pick between Tombfist or Belt of Deceiver for Intimidate damage buff. Personally I will pick Belt of Deceiver over Tombfist. " Provides the overleech from Slayer. Without life and resist rolls are it's biggest drawback. " Extra fire damage and life recovery. Hard to beat if you have both in 1 amulet. " Provides very good damage boost to the build when you run Anger aura. If you are not able to obtain the above stats, prioritize "Gain #% physical damage as extra fire damage while affected by Anger". " Provides attack speed, movement speed, dexterity and chaos resistance. " Astral Plate chest Preferred Warlord mod: 1. Socketed Attacks have -15 to Total Mana Cost (suffix) Preferred additional Hunter mod: 1. Attacks have +1.#% to critical strike chance (suffix) 2. You can apply an additional curse (prefix) Refer to Recommended Rares for crafting instructions. " Up to 50% increased Cyclone damage, 25% increased attack speed, 10% increased movement speed. You can run with 5L. Main drawback is the lack of defense stats. Bronn's Lithe provides great damage buff to the build. Thanks to @Lunartuna for testing it out. " Increased AOE, great clear speed, comes with all resist and decent life. " Belly's large life pool couple with Windshriek's (fated version of Windscream) +1 curse (for Enfeeble), you can easily reach effective life pool of 8300. Great setup when you are focused on leveling. Cons: You have to skip hexproof maps as curse do not work on the mobs. " Similar to Belly + Windscream, Cospri's Will with Enfeeble works great for leveling and your curses work in hexproof maps too. Cons: Lower effective life pool as compared to Belly + Windscream combo " NOTE: A medium warcry cluster jewel with Mob Mentality + Cry Wolf will be superior over this. 29% chance to gain endurance charge on kill. A lazy man approach to gain endurance charges without self casting Enduring Cry. This jewel is pure luxury. You socket the jewel near Barbarism node as shown: Special thanks to @Metallicalf for pointing out that you don't have to pick Diamond Skin to benefit from it. Recommended Rares Spoiler Gloves - Spiked Gloves with Warlord influence Preferred " - At least 75 life (can roll over 100 life in patch 3.0) - Culling Strike (only if you are not using Slayer as ascendancy) - 20 to 30% melee physical damage - 20 to 30% increased projectile attack damage - At least 10% Attack Speed - At least 30% Fire / Cold / Lightning Resist (or any number that can get resistance capped) - Intelligence (optional. if you need it to equip gears) Example: Belt - Rustic or Vanguard Belt Preferred " - At least 75 life - At least 30% Fire / Cold / Lightning Resist - At least 20% Elemental Damage With Attacks - At least 300 armor (optional but highly recommended) Chest - Astral Plate Preferred (Crusader + Hunter influenced) " - Killed enemies explode, dealing 3% of their life as physical damage - Attacks have +1.#% to critical strike chance (optional but highly recommended) - You can apply an additional curse (optional but highly recommended) Example: Crafting Crusader + Hunter Chest - You need an ilvl 85 crusader and ilvl 84 hunter chest - Transmute + Alteration + Augmentation slam till you get preferred mod on the influenced chest - Use Awakener's orb on 1 of the chest to move the influence onto the other chest IMPORTANT: Chest must only have 1 affix from the influence. If you have 2 affixes that belong to the influence, Awakener's orb will randomly pick 1 of them and move it over to the target chest. Rings - Opal or Steel Rings Preferred (Hunter + Warlord influenced highly recommended) " At least 40 life (60+ preferred) Curse enemies with level 8 Flammbility on hit (Warlord influence) Curse enemies with level 8 Elemental Weakness on hit (Hunter influence) At least 30% Fire / Cold / Lightning Resist (or any number that can get resistance capped) At least 20% Fire damage (optional, can be crafted using Essence of Anger) At least 20% Elemental Damage With Attacks (optional but highly recommended) Flat physical damage roll (optional but recommended) Crafting Hunter / Warlord Curse Rings You need an ilvl 80 hunter / ilvl 80 warlord ring Transmute + Alteration + Augmentation slam till you get curse on hit to show up on the ring Crafting level 22 Herald of Ash on the curse ring (Optional): You need an ilvl 68+ elder ring Transmute + Alteration + Augmentation slam till you get Grants Level 22 Herald of Ash Skill Use Awakener's orb on the elder ring to move Level 22 Herald of Ash onto the hunter/warlord ring IMPORTANT: To use Awakened Orb, ring must only have 1 affix from the influence. If you have 2 affixes that belong to the influence, Awakener's orb will randomly pick 1 of them and move it over to the target ring. Boots - Titan Greaves Preferred " - At least 75 life (can roll over 100 life in patch 3.0) - At least 30% Fire / Cold / Lightning Resist (or any number that can get resistance capped) - At least 15% movement Gems Setup Spoiler Ngamahu's Flame (Do NOT require 6L) Spoiler " Combustion reduces monster fire resistance which will make Cyclone do more damage. 4/5/6L Chest - Cyclone Spoiler NOTE: Craft 2 x -3 mana on your rings and you will not run into mana issues 4R 1B 1G Spoiler You have higher chance to hit this color setup on Bronn when you use 3R on crafting bench. 4L " End Game Gem Replacement 5L " End Game Gem Replacement 6L " How do you get 4R1B1G on your chest? Spoiler You will color your chest with 3R. It has the highest chance to hit the color combo. You can also get Vorici to tier 3 in Research safehouse. Pray you get 2 or 3 white sockets at the right spots. If it fails, you have to re-attempt. E.g. 4/5/6L Chest - Consecrated Path Spoiler 4L " End Game Gem Replacement 5L " For Berserker, Replace Rage with 6L " 4/5/6L Setup - Tectonic Slam Spoiler 4L " To use exert, replace Multistrike with End Game Gem Replacement 5L " For Berserker, Replace Rage with 6L " End Game Gem Replacement Replace with Helm / Gloves / Boots Spoiler " Unavailable " Recommended Gem Level For: " Cast When Damage Taken: 1 Immortal Call: 3 Wave of Conviction: 7 Steelskin: 20 (self cast when in combat) NOTE: You can bind Steelskin to left click and disable "Always attack without moving". This will enable you to autocast Steelskin when you walk around the map. " You can swap Flammability with Enfeeble (level 13) for leveling. If you have the recommended Watcher's Eye, you will run: Anger + Herald of Ash + Blood and Sand + Enlighten Flasks Setup Spoiler Recommended Flask Setup " Anti-bleed for life flask Anti-freeze for Quick Silver flask IMPORTANT: To run this setup, ensure your overcapped fire resistance is at least 50% higher than overcapped cold resistance and highest among all resistances. E.g. Fire Resist: 159, Cold Resist: 109, Lightning Resist: 109 or " Anti-bleed for life flask Anti-freeze for Quick Silver flask Budget Flask Setup " Anti-bleed for life flask Anti-freeze for Quick Silver flask Anti-curse for Granite flask Add knockback for Basalt flask Uber Lab Setup " Anti-bleed for life flask 1 Anti-freeze for life flask 2 Anti-bleed for Quick Silver flask Anti-curse for Granite flask Add knockback for Basalt flask Hit a few mobs so that overleech from Slayer is activated. Hit quick silver flask (with anti-bleed) and run through traps. Use Soul of Ryslatha pantheon for free life flask charges. If you run into mana issues (i.e. no mana regen maps), you can replace quick silver with mana pot: Abyssal Jewels (Patch 3.1) Spoiler Stats to look out for: " - 25 to 50 flat life (prefix) - Add 7 to 12 flat physical damage to axe (prefix) - Add 15 to 40 flat fire damage (suffix) - Add 4 to 8 flat physical damage (suffix) - 2% elemental resistance penetration if you have not kill recently (suffix) - #% increased damage against abyssal monsters (suffix) For highest damage output (all situation): " - 25 to 50 flat life (prefix) - Add 7 to 12 flat physical damage to axe (prefix) - Add 15 to 40 flat fire damage (suffix) - 2% elemental resistance penetration if you have not kill recently (suffix) For highest damage output (for abyss): " - 25 to 50 flat life (prefix) - Add 7 to 12 flat physical damage to axe (prefix) - Add 15 to 40 flat fire damage (suffix) - #% increased damage against abyssal monsters (suffix) Jewels Setup Spoiler Stats to look out for: - Increased attack speed % - Physical damage % - Fire damage % - Increased projectile damage % - Max life % - Damage over time % (ignite skill tree only) - Chance to ignite % (ignite skill tree only) - Critical strike chance % (Acuity version only) - Resistance (if you are missing) - Intelligence (if you are missing) Samples: Pros & Cons Spoiler Pros - Can do Uber Lab with just the axe and a 5L chest - Slayer provide overleech, with a Quick Silver flask of anti-bleed, you will be able to simulate Slayer's Brutal Fervour on Scion. - You will be able to clear Uber Lab by level 75 - 5 jewel sockets Cons - Leveling to level 55 could be a chore but from there onward it is a breeze - Requires some refund points to respec the tree as you progress higher in your level - Rely on Vaal Pact for survival, thus losing the life regen but overleech from Slayer makes up for it - Can't do no life no mana leech map - Requires linking Fortify gem to Leap Slam and using Leap Slam to proc instead (unless you swap Added Fire Damage gem in chest slot with Fortify for permanent fortify) Leveling Skill Trees Spoiler " Huge shout out to @Ezevade for pushing this build to endgame! The skill trees has been adjusted based on his feedback and adjustments and Raider is now the preferred choice instead of Elementalist. Skill Tree - Level 25: poeplanner.com Skill Tree - Level 55: poeplanner.com Skill Tree - Level 75: poeplanner.com Skill Tree - Level 90: poeplanner.com Skill Tree - Level 95: poeplanner.com Skill Tree - Level 95 (Elemental Overload): poeplanner.com IMPORTANT: You will start to link the bottom section of the tree up when you reach level 75. Once you have the bottom section linked, you can re-spec into level 90 skill trees. Ascendancy Spoiler Duelist Ascendancy (Champion) -> Ranger Ascendancy (Raider) -> Path of the Duelist (3 passive points) POB Pastebin Spoiler NOTE: If you are unable to load the pastebin, ensure you are running the community fork version of POB. https://pastebin.com/2xjkRyA9 P.S. Go to bottom dropdown of POB and [Click to Select Tree] to change skill tree. Pantheon System Spoiler The powers provided by the major and minor gods are situation based. You can switch them in your hideout before engaging boss of certain map. *For general mapping and Uber Lab:* " *Soul of Brine King (Major God)* - Stun immunity for 2 seconds if you have been stunned. 50% reduced chill effect. Also great for maps with chilling ground effect *Soul of Ryslatha (Minor God)* - Life flask gain 3 charges every 3 seconds For Shaper: " *Soul of Brine King (Major God)* - 50% reduced chill effect. Also great for maps with chilling ground effect *Soul of Yugul (Minor God)* - 5% reduced cold damage taken if you have been hit recently For Uber Atziri " *Soul of Solaris (Major God)* - 20% chance to take 50% less area damage, 8% reduced Elemental Damage taken if you haven't been Hit Recently *Soul of Abberath (Minor God)* - 5% reduced fire damage taken while moving For Minotaur Guardian " *Soul of Solaris (Major God)* - 20% chance to take 50% less area damage, Take no Extra Damage from Critical Strikes if you have taken a Critical Strike Recently *Soul of Gruthkul (Minor God)* - Up to 5% physical damage reduction or *Soul of Ryslatha (Minor God)* - Life flask gain 3 charges every 3 seconds For Phoenix Guardian " *Soul of Solaris (Major God)* - 20% chance to take 50% less area damage, 8% reduced Elemental Damage taken if you haven't been Hit Recently *Soul of Abberath (Minor God)* - 5% reduced fire damage taken while moving For Hydra Guardian " *Soul of Brine King (Major God)* - 50% reduced chill effect. Also great for maps with chilling ground effect *Soul of Garukhan (Minor God)* - 5% chance to evade attack and more movement speed For Chimera Guardian " *Soul of Arakaali (Major God)* - 5% reduction to damage over time taken and more chaos resistance *Soul of Ralakesh (Minor God)* - 25% reduced physical damage over time taken while moving or *Soul of Ryslatha (Minor God)* - Life flask gain 3 charges every 3 seconds Lab Enchantments Spoiler Helm - 30% Increased Flammability Curse Effect (thanks to @khoi14021993 for the highlight) - 15% increased Cyclone Attack Speed - 40% increased Cyclone Damage - 30% reduced Herald of Ash Mana Reservation Gloves - Attack with Commandment of Fury on Hit Boots - 16% increased Attack and Cast Speed if you've Killed Recently - Damage Penetrates 10% of Enemy Elemental Resistances if you haven't Killed Recently - 0.6% of Damage Leeched as Life and Mana if you've Killed Recently - Adds 45 to 68 Fire Damage if you've Killed Recently - 120% increased Critical Strike Chance if you haven't Crit Recently (only for Elemental Overload skill tree) Amulet Anointment Spoiler Priority listed is top (best) down (worse): Tenacity Primeval Force Rampart Heart of Flame Magmatic Strikes Splitting Strikes Delirium Cluster Jewel Spoiler The following is a list of useful notables from Delirium cluster jewels: Offensive + Defensive " Enduring Focus: Channelling Skills deal 25% increased Damage; 25% chance to gain an Endurance Charge each second while Channelling Battle-Hardened: 30% increased Evasion Rating and Armour; 35% increased Physical Damage Smoking Remains: 35% increased Fire Damage; 10% chance to create a Smoke Cloud on Kill Cremator: 30% increased Fire Damage, Ignited Enemies you hit are destroyed on Kill Special Reserve: 20% increased Damage during any Flask Effect; Regenerate 2% of Life per second during any Flask Effect Master of Fear: Enemies you Curse are Intimidated Offensive " Force Multiplier: 5% chance to deal Double Damage; 25% increased Physical Damage Master of Fire: Nearby Enemies have Fire Exposure Cooked Alive: 15% chance to Ignite; Enemies Ignited by you have -10% to Fire Resistance Devastator: 20% increased Attack Damage; 20% increased Damage with Ailments from Attack Skills; Enemies killed by your Attack Hits have a 15% chance to Explode, dealing a tenth of their maximum Life as Physical Damage Wish for Death: You have Culling Strike against Cursed Enemies; Curse Skills have 20% increased Skill Effect Duration Haunting Shout: 20% increased Warcry Cooldown Recovery Speed; Enemies Taunted by your Warcries are Intimidated (works well with Battle Cry) Defensive " Prismatic Carapace: 30% increased Armour; +1% to all maximum Elemental Resistances Dragon Hunter: 30% increased Armour; +20% to Fire Resistance; 5% additional Physical Damage Reduction Enduring Composure: 30% increased Armour; Gain an Endurance Charge every second if you've been Hit Recently Mender's Wellspring: 25% increased Life Recovery from Flasks; Life Flasks gain 1 Charge every 3 seconds; Remove Bleeding when you use a Life Flask Thread of Hope Spoiler Thread of Hope allows you to pick up skill nodes without pathing to them. Following are possible choices for the build. " 1. Large ring Thread of Hope near Barbarism 2. Magmatic Strikes 3. Butchery 4. Steadfast 5. Versatility " 1. Very large ring Thread of Hope near Barbarism 2. Born to Fight + Heart of the Warrior + 2 x Life 3. Deep Breaths 4. Arsonist 5. Inexorable Bandits Spoiler Kill All for 2 Passives Crafting Spoiler You can find various crafting options below (displayed in order of importance, top being most important, bottom being least important): Gloves: Titan Gauntlets (preferred for lab enchantment), Spiked Gloves " Essence of Zeal - Add attack speed Essence of Spite - more intelligence (if you needed it) Rings: Steel, Opal, Two Stone / Prismatic (for more resist) " Essence of Hysteria - 10% physical as extra fire damage Essence of Zeal - Add attack speed Essence of Anger - #% increased fire damage Essence of Contempt - Add # - # physical damage Essence of Spite - more intelligence (if you needed it) Belt: Vanguard, Rustic, Leather, Heavy " Essence of Dread - More armour Essence of Hysteria - 5% elemental penetration on flask Essence of Spite - more intelligence (if you needed it) Frequently Asked Questions Spoiler Please refer to Slayer's version of FAQ. Most of what is written there applies to Scion too. Change Logs Spoiler EDIT 1: Updated 4L gems. Removed Blood Rage and added Culling Strike to Ancestral Warchief + Leap Slap setup. EDIT 2: Added Uber Lab screenshot contributed by @ezevade and a new Recommended Rares section EDIT 3: Added T16 guardian videos made by @Ezevade EDIT 4: Added video of Deathless Shaper kill by @Ezevade and updated skill tree based on his input EDIT 5: Added @Ezevade's offense and defense stats for his Shaper kill into Shaper Video section EDIT 6: Updated skill tree for patch 3.1 EDIT 7: Updated gems section + abyssal jewels section to match Slayer version of the build. EDIT 8: Updated flasks section for patch 3.1 EDIT 9: Updated skill trees for patch 3.4 EDIT 10: Added Consecrated Path into gems section EDIT 11: Updated for patch 3.6 EDIT 12: Updated for patch 3.7 EDIT 13: Updated gems section EDIT 14: Added Elemental Overload skill trees EDIT 15: Updated for patch 3.8 EDIT 16: Updated for patch 3.9 EDIT 17: Updated for patch 3.10 EDIT 18: Updated for patch 3.11 EDIT 19: Updated for patch 3.12 EDIT 20: Updated for patch 3.13 EDIT 21: Updated for patch 3.14 EDIT 22: Updated for patch 3.15 Last edited by kira1414#3753 on Jul 23, 2021, 11:06:13 AM Last bumped on Oct 27, 2021, 10:38:55 PM Some items in this post are currently unavailable.	Posted by kira1414#3753 on Aug 16, 2017, 4:12:41 AM Quote this Post
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First One hah. Nice to see your new Build Guide. I like your slayer version alot. Scion version looks good so far, too. I enjoy your builds hope we get more :) GL HF	Posted by El1teStyle#2356 on Aug 16, 2017, 6:53:44 AM Quote this Post
I'm using your slayer build currently in Harbinger. I may give this one at try too, since I have most of the gear already :) Any pastebin link? Or a Character using the build we can import to path of building? thanks!	Posted by Krodah#2041 on Aug 16, 2017, 6:53:01 PM Quote this Post
" El1teStyle wrote: First One hah. Nice to see your new Build Guide. I like your slayer version alot. Scion version looks good so far, too. I enjoy your builds hope we get more :) GL HF Thank you. :) _____________________________________________________________________________ " Krodah wrote: I'm using your slayer build currently in Harbinger. I may give this one at try too, since I have most of the gear already :) Any pastebin link? Or a Character using the build we can import to path of building? thanks! I do not have the paste bin data for this build but what you can do is import your own Slayer profile into PoB and then follow by the skill tree of this Scion version. :)	Posted by kira1414#3753 on Aug 16, 2017, 8:02:28 PM Quote this Post
Can i use voidheart version for this build?	Posted by Obi104A#5241 on Aug 17, 2017, 12:51:13 AM Quote this Post
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" Obi104A wrote: Can i use voidheart version for this build? You can use Voidheart as long as you are not running Avatar of Fire (or using Xoph's Blood). The skill tree to use for Voidheart will be the same skill tree as Xoph's Blood but without Xoph's Blood amulet. I would recommend you to go for Avatar of Fire skill tree if you do not yet own Xoph's Blood amulet because AoF gives better damage as compared to Voidheart. You will need to re-spec your skill tree when you get your hands on Xoph's Blood.	Posted by kira1414#3753 on Aug 17, 2017, 2:33:59 AM Quote this Post
For one who haven't tested the slayer build and want to test this out. What would you recommend using, Slayer or Scion? Pros / cons? Thanks! A mouse! ~(,,_,;>	Posted by Kimba#4378 on Aug 17, 2017, 10:43:21 AM Quote this Post
I can afford both but can't decide between Brons and Carcass, do you think carcass would win out since it buffs the balls more vs cyclone dmg on brons? Chroming will be an adventure of its own LOL	Posted by Moemed#6948 on Aug 17, 2017, 11:41:24 AM Quote this Post