Why does no one use elemental proliferation anymore?

Leveling a fire trapper and plan on actually playing fire trap in the end-game too using the new perfect agony keystone... and I was wondering... since it bot un-nerfed... why wouldn't I use elemental prolif over cluster traps? It just seems better, if I can get enough AoE.. right?

damage = stuff is dead

ailments = stuff is alive, but with a fancy graphics effect.


Same reason why noone bothered with with chill pre 3.0 (and ppl only bother with it now cause of Hypothermia and other DAMAGE boosts, noone gets it for the slow effect)

back in either 1.3 or 2.0 i forget which one, they absolutely wrecked elemental proliferation and it has never recovered since. the radius is horrible and the minus damage is horrible.

you're better off with higher attack or cast speed and just blaze everything manually. prolif was very niche when it was good, and now its just not good.

Elementalist has a free built in elemental proliferation.

If you want to have ignite proliferation only, there is a new gem that has more radius and even a more multiplier.

Im not sure how well clustertrap works with fire trap, but overlapping areas can cause "shotgunning", effectively increasing your damage.

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Edzilla wrote:

Leveling a fire trapper and plan on actually playing fire trap in the end-game too using the new perfect agony keystone... and I was wondering... since it bot un-nerfed... why wouldn't I use elemental prolif over cluster traps? It just seems better, if I can get enough AoE.. right?

I'm actually not sure... it appears to be cuz of the nerf back in.. 2.somethingsomething, i don't see the damage reduction on the gem anymore, so i don't see why not... perhaps cuz of the ignite double dipping "nerf" ?

I would test it out and see for yourself. I think it could Work tbh, with all the new ailment support gems.

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Pathtastic wrote:

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Edzilla wrote:

Leveling a fire trapper and plan on actually playing fire trap in the end-game too using the new perfect agony keystone... and I was wondering... since it bot un-nerfed... why wouldn't I use elemental prolif over cluster traps? It just seems better, if I can get enough AoE.. right?

I'm actually not sure... it appears to be cuz of the nerf back in.. 2.somethingsomething, i don't see the damage reduction on the gem anymore, so i don't see why not... perhaps cuz of the ignite double dipping "nerf" ?

I would test it out and see for yourself. I think it could Work tbh, with all the new ailment support gems.

Yeah, it got a nerf back awhile ago doing "less damage" but that was removed a few patches ago but still never used.

I will test it over cluster trap and maybe grab some AoE.

This is my plan for the character so far.

The nerf was to radius. You used to be able to get stuff proliferating all the way to the edge of the area.

People aren't using it because clear speeds are so high. Damage over time doesn't cut it when you can get damage so high that you don't need it. DOT should be the highest form of damage, and Area should be the least... or maybe projectile. They got this backwards.

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Pathtastic wrote:

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Edzilla wrote:

Leveling a fire trapper and plan on actually playing fire trap in the end-game too using the new perfect agony keystone... and I was wondering... since it bot un-nerfed... why wouldn't I use elemental prolif over cluster traps? It just seems better, if I can get enough AoE.. right?

I'm actually not sure... it appears to be cuz of the nerf back in.. 2.somethingsomething, i don't see the damage reduction on the gem anymore, so i don't see why not... perhaps cuz of the ignite double dipping "nerf" ?

I would test it out and see for yourself. I think it could Work tbh, with all the new ailment support gems.

The thing is, that a support that is not a more multiplier in some shape or form is seen as a wasted support slot.

Why waste a support if you could just roll a elementalist.