Gladiator Outmatch and Outlast and Dual Strike/Cleave
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How does the Gladiator Outmatch and Outlast ascendancy node interact with dual wielding, in particular with Dual Strike and Cleave? As far as I can tell, these attack with main and off hand simultaneously, so does a kill count as main hand, off hand, both, or neither?
We have this from the DS wiki: "On-hit Effects: Effects that typically occur when you hit an enemy will only apply for this skill once per use", but the above are two possible effects from a single hit. Although the skills look simultaneous, it's possible they are actually two attacks. My WoE Cleave/DS Duelist would like to know :) |
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"Although the skills look simultaneous, it's possible they are actually two attacks."
They are not. It's just the one attack. They're super fucking weird, too. This question has popped up. Sadly, the answer is they're main-hand only due to limitations :( Last edited by Vipermagi#0984 on Feb 24, 2016, 7:46:32 PM
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Interesting.
I guess that means Dual Wield will be best served as a boss killer, when you're not getting the kills to trigger Outmatch and Outlast. "Let those with infinite free time pave the road with their corpses." - reboticon
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Hmmmm, bummer. Give that thread, I wonder if I was ever getting the chaos damage with those skills.
Given the mechanics of both WoE and Cleave/DS, they look like they were made for each other. Wonder if they were ever working as I expected. Having said that, I have no complaints about how it's working, it's one of my more fun characters. Thanks for the answer :) |
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You should still be dealing Chaos Damage - Wings of Entropy counts as a main-hand and an off-hand weapon, Cleave only counts as a main-hand hit. :) Different factors to consider.
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Hits with the main hand and damages with the offhand. I gotta see this in a video :)
Frenzy charges only might suit this character, I already have Enduring Cry to generate Endurance charges but no easy Frenzy charge source. Let's see how it works in practice, or if anything changes before release. I imagine there aren't a lot of WoE users anyway, it was niche when it came out and is probably even less popular now. And Cleave and DS aren't that well regarded either. Not that I care, I use what I like, clear speed and cookie cutter and meta don't bother me much. |
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