Most resilient bow-build on hc?

What do you consider the most semibeginner friendly resilient bow build for HC? Bow builds are generally little bit quishy since physical dmg is problme. There are tornado shot/LA/Some blood magic variations etc. Aiming to put decent amount of exalteds for the build.

I am playing an armorbased archer and it is really strong, not on hc and high ele dmg=rip, but hey it feels much safer than a regular one.

Travel over to the duelist start and go hybrid ar/eva for defense. It's very tanky and synergizes well with lightning coil in the end game.

For offense, you just do your normal thing.

voltaxic rift with lightning coil and taste of hate.

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Nephalim wrote:

voltaxic rift with lightning coil and taste of hate.

This. Feels so good :) Never playing phys bows again :P

Can always just do a non-crit LA or SA build with Lioneye's Vision + Drillneck, and go Iron Reflexes (and Unwavering Stance). Personally, I'd not bother with Blood Magic in that case, just run on 75% mana reserved with some combination of Grace/AA/Hatred/HoA. Lioneye's gives a high amount of armor (and life) for your chest while giving you a great dps boost paired with Drillneck.


And if you're trying to be real safe? I'd recommend bringing along a GMP-Iceshot totem. they're outstanding for crowd control and slowing bosses (don't need to worry about chill thresholds on bosses when you can just lay chilled ground below their feet constantly), they add a great degree of safety if you're willing to *not* just be a one-button character, and they offer a bit of supporting dps too.

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Shppy wrote:

Can always just do a non-crit LA or SA build with Lioneye's Vision + Drillneck, and go Iron Reflexes (and Unwavering Stance). Personally, I'd not bother with Blood Magic in that case, just run on 75% mana reserved with some combination of Grace/AA/Hatred/HoA. Lioneye's gives a high amount of armor (and life) for your chest while giving you a great dps boost paired with Drillneck.

Coloring that chest costs more than buying a dex/hybrid base with 1 more link and insert pierce.

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krenderke wrote:

Coloring that chest costs more than buying a dex/hybrid base with 1 more link and insert pierce.

Depends on what you're looking for. For LA I've found GGGRR useful (Lightning Arrow-PPAD-GMP-Added Fire-WED for my 5L, 6th could be FA, Phys to Light, or LL depending on color it rolls), and that's not particularly expensive... not even 150 on average to roll it on a 5L.

I mean, if you're gonna try to color it 4+ greens, yeah, it's kinda rough, not really ideal for Caustic or something, but for Split Arrow and especially for Lightning Arrow (which usually would want WED and probably Added Fire) just 3 greens with a few reds for the rest is fine.

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Shppy wrote:

Depends on what you're looking for. For LA I've found GGGRR useful (Lightning Arrow-PPAD-GMP-Added Fire-WED for my 5L, 6th could be FA, Phys to Light, or LL depending on color it rolls), and that's not particularly expensive... not even 150 on average to roll it on a 5L.

I mean, if you're gonna try to color it 4+ greens, yeah, it's kinda rough, not really ideal for Caustic or something, but for Split Arrow and especially for Lightning Arrow (which usually would want WED and probably Added Fire) just 3 greens with a few reds for the rest is fine.

I guess we agree on the support gems in some form, but in my opinion faster attacks could be better than added fire (depends what we look for of course), but added fire is still better than nothing, so you are right.

At the moment I have 12k tooltip LA without charges on my archer (ppad-pierce-lmp-wed).

And btw the new duelist leech nodes are really strong, it could even sustain a 7link LA easily, since 0.4% was more than enough for a 5link on a noregen map.
(I mean this attack dmg leech which works with the ele part too, normal phys would not be good enough)

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krenderke wrote:

I guess we agree on the support gems in some form, but in my opinion faster attacks could be better than added fire (depends what we look for of course), but added fire is still better than nothing, so you are right.

At the moment I have 12k tooltip LA without charges on my archer (ppad-pierce-lmp-wed).

And btw the new duelist leech nodes are really strong, it could even sustain a 7link LA easily, since 0.4% was more than enough for a 5link on a noregen map.
(I mean this attack dmg leech which works with the ele part too, normal phys would not be good enough)

Well, in terms of raw tooltip dps, adding lvl 20 added fire amounts to a ~29.5% dps amp (33.7% if lvl 20 WED is in the link) assuming you're using Hatred and HoA (which is about the least efficient practical case for added fire, it's a greater damage amp if you don't have one or both of those), while lvl 20 faster attacks amounts to a maximum of a 22% dps amp if you've got 100+% increased attack speed elsewhere (which, at least for my recent LA builds, is an underestimate... I've usually got around that much without accounting for jewels, gear, or frenzy charges).

I mean, tooltip dps isn't everything, added fire does cost slightly more per shot (though faster attacks costs more per time, generally), and high attack speed is better defensively for kiting (and for getting knockback procs, if you're using king of the hill or proj weakness or other knockback mechs), but all in all i kinda lean towards the raw dps and damage-per-hit for a skill that can tear through packs in a shot or two like LA can. The fact that it's easier to roll that way on Lioneye's just seals the deal for me.


And yeah, i haven't had cause to use the new leech cluster yet, tbh... i don't find i need life leech much on my LA character, and my other character since 2.1 is a phys/poison melee-ish attacker that can't really use the pure attack leech any better than physical attack leech.

As for mana leech, i got a little lucky in easily rolling a viridian jewel with 2 mana per hit AND .27% physical attack mana leech, which handles costs very well (and I don't mind bringing a Divine/Hallowed/Colossal mana flask with me... since 2.0, those ones get loads of uses from full and recharge super easily).