Can someone tell me why I rip to Shavronne of Umbra?(cruel)
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Shavronne of Umbra is the miniboss before Malachai, the one casts stormcall.
First or all, I know she has damage reflection. But I still dont understand the death. Let me explain. I'm using kinetic blast coc build. Kinetic blast+coc+gmp+chain+ices pear+fireball set up. I have 2469 hp 75 all res, 10%phsical reduction and arctic armour. My kinetic blast has 135dps, 2.02 attack per sec and 41 crit chance, 250% multiplier, 75%hit chance. My fireball and ice spear have about 200 damage per hit. If you have played coc build, you will know how low the single target dps this build has. A single regular elite mob in cruel takes me about 1min to kill. Her stormcall hits me like 1/3 of my hp, and the lightning ball hits me 1/5. This is the moment I die: I just dodge the stormcall, Shavronne of Umbra blink to a wall, I shot kinetic blast for 1 sec, 2 to 3 ice spear and fireball was cast, and I die. I just checked the wiki and found her reflection was lightning throne, which means she has to deal about 10k dmg to me for my 75% lightning resistance. Let's say if her reflection is 100% all reflect. It still need me to deal 10k to kill myself. I know I have higher dps when the enemy at wall, but 10k is like my kinetic blast hits about 100 hits in 2 shot(135dps,-25% aoe). This is simply impossible because 2 gmp kinetic balst only generate 2*5*4=40 explosions, which majority won't hit the target normally. The few spells that coc cast? I dont think they will hit more than 2k. And btw, I don't believe the reflection is 100%, I never have a character loses tons of health while attacking her. And this is just cruel. However, reflection is the most likely cause of my death. Am I really die to the reflection? How? |
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Tooltip DPS might not be correct. You could be doing more damage than you think, and thus you died because of that. Try using some weaker gear and test out will it happen again.
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Lightning Thorns is a flat-value Reflection, it doesn't care how much Damage you deal, only whether you Hit or not. You can see when it is active, so just be careful with your shots, and get a Topaz Flask so you don't get your shit pushed in. Merc A4, especially the Belly of the Beast and Harvest, are intended to be very, very difficult - you generally start mapping before tackling that.
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" Your build is not good enough obviously . I don't have any issues on my conversion trap quad totem deathknight . R.I.P 4.B. Last edited by tryhardgg#7333 on Aug 12, 2015, 10:15:19 PM
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you shotgun yourself with your KB at Shav wall
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You died to Lightning Thorns, and this spell is not a reflection mechanic. It will do a flat amount of damage each time you hit her, what ever the damage you do. Kinetic blast explosions can overlap, and will hit her a large number of time per attack. You must have hit her with several explosions and then your coc proc finished you when they hit her.
- Last edited by Zybeline2#7822 on Aug 13, 2015, 9:36:10 AM
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she has a reflect aura that she activates. look at her feet and don't attack her when it's up, that's probably what's killing you.
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" it is thorns, see above, different than reflect. Hey...is this thing on?
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" Actually, I think under most players' definitions and indeed even in GGG definitions, thorns is a form of reflect. That is, all thorns is reflect, but not all reflect is thorns. See, for example, this shield, which has flat damage on Hit just like the lightning thorns mechanic, but is listed as a "reflect" mod: "Reflects 50 Physical Damage to Melee Attackers" Need game info? Check out the Wiki at: https://www.poewiki.net/ Contact support@grindinggear.com for account issues. Check out How to Report Bugs + Post Images at: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/18347 Last edited by adghar#1824 on Aug 13, 2015, 7:34:02 PM
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" True, it follows all rules of regular reflect in regards to evading, blocking or whatnot, it can't stun either or carry additional properties. The only difference is it does a fixed amount instead of percentage of damage done. Wish the armchair developers would go back to developing armchairs.
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