Class Balance: Is Templar dead?

Here is what Top 100 looks like:

Warbands
Scion: 24
Ranger: 24
Marauder: 21
Witch: 16
Duelist: 6
Shadow: 5
Templar: 4

Tempest
Scion: 25
Ranger: 7
Marauder: 33
Witch: 18
Duelist: 9
Shadow: 8
Templar: 0


Scion: The most balanced class overall
Ranger: Fun to play, but you'll die a lot.
Marauder: You'll live
Witch: Neither fun nor reliable
Duelist/Shadow: Don't even try
Templar: Why is this guy still here?

Altough my own experience with my dual wielding Duelist is pretty good so far, he probably will not be able to past level 90

Last edited by BurakUeda#0565 on Aug 6, 2015, 3:01:48 AM
My templar (tempest) is doing just fine. I'm not up there, though, partly because I don't play that much.
So, no, templar is not dead, just not popular atm.
Bird lover of Wraeclast
Las estrellas te iluminan - Hoy te sirven de guía
Te sientes tan fuerte que piensas - que nadie te puede tocar
No matter what happens to the Templar, I'll always like him because he has no pants!
Scion is very balanced, but she has a huge drawback: she has pants... .
Last edited by Soepkieken#7149 on Aug 6, 2015, 6:09:36 AM
https://PathOfExile.com/forum/view-thread/1379720
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BurakUeda wrote:
>> CLASS BALANCE: Is Templar Dead?
Here is what Top 100 looks like:

Warbands
Scion: 24
Ranger: 24
Marauder: 21
Witch: 16
Duelist: 6
Shadow: 5
Templar: 4

Tempest
Scion: 25
Ranger: 7
Marauder: 33
Witch: 18
Duelist: 9
Shadow: 8
Templar: 0


Scion: The most balanced class overall
Ranger: Fun to play, but you'll die a lot.
Marauder: You'll live
Witch: Neither fun nor reliable
Duelist/Shadow: Don't even try
Templar: Why is this guy still here?

Altough my own experience with my dual wielding Duelist is pretty good so far, he probably will not be able to past level 90



Random noob thoughts ...



I think ...

The Melee STR Templar is dead.

I'm full Blood Magic HP-for-Mana w/ 5678 HP & 7146 Armor / 41% Mitigation.

I have the "great & glorious" Molten Shell + Immortal Call + Cast when Damaged + Greater Duration "safety net".

I cast my "Warlord's Mark" HP regen curse.

I cast "Decoy Totem" excessively.

I maintain 5 Endurance Charges except when it's unwise to taunt (or when my Decoy Totem isn't up).

I have & use 4 of the BEST LVL 65-60 HP potions & a 65% movement Quicksilver potion.

I have 25 +HP Passive Skill Points spent.

I still get killed in Dried Lake.

I still get killed on LVL 75 maps.

I have PRETTY DAMN HIGH QUALITY GEAR.

https://PathOfExile.com/account/view-profile/Seliri/characters


Tsovek is my LVL 89 Templar's name.

( Have read about the "glory" of "Ice Crash" & "Ground Slam", but available "Unique"/"Brown tier" quality options for Staves/Maces is SIGNIFICANTLY lacking.

Currently doing "Molten Strike" & "Lightning Strike" & "Leap Slam" with "Vigilant Strike" & "Heavy Strike" still being leveled to likely not really ever use. )



-- Switched to Cyclone & Vaal Cyclone sometimes ... but such proximity is still too dangerous on true LVL 74-75+ maps ...

- Really, the only probable viable path to melee dominance ...

- Is an EXTREMELY COSTLY, perhaps double six-socket, Ice Crash / Ground Slam / TOTAL ATTACK SPEED build.




I feel like Path of Exile is HEAVILY SLANTED toward Ranged DPS & Energy Shield builds ALONE.
https://PathOfExile.com/account/view-profile/Seliri/characters

Tsovek's 78 Tentative "THINGS THAT SHOULDNT BE ABSENT IN PoE" (TFTTTSBAIP) -
https://PathOfExile.com/forum/view-thread/1379249
Last edited by Seliri#4909 on Aug 12, 2015, 11:54:05 AM
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Seliri wrote:
I think ...

The Melee STR Templar is dead.

I'm full Blood Magic HP-for-Mana w/ 4.7K HP & 5400 Armor.

I have the "great & glorious" Molten Shell + Immortal Call + Cast when Damaged + Greater Duration "safety net".

I cast my "Warlord's Mark" HP regen curse.

I have 28 +HP Passive Skill Points spent.

I still get killed in Dried Lake.

I still get killed on LVL 68 maps.

I have PRETTY DAMN HIGH QUALITY GEAR.

https://PathOfExile.com/account/view-profile/Seliri/characters


Tsovek is my LVL 82 Templar's name.



I feel like Path of Exile is HEAVILY SLANTED toward Ranged DPS & Energy Shield builds ALONE.


Using bold letters can help to emphasize certain aspects you want to put out, but only if you don't use it for everything you want to say.

@topic: No. Just because something isn't the best, that doesnt mean it's useless.
Edit your post to include things I edited in since you quoted me. n_n

And the emboldened aspects I wanted to put out were emphasized, thank you for the wonderful advocacy my dear peer.
https://PathOfExile.com/account/view-profile/Seliri/characters

Tsovek's 78 Tentative "THINGS THAT SHOULDNT BE ABSENT IN PoE" (TFTTTSBAIP) -
https://PathOfExile.com/forum/view-thread/1379249
Is this even serious?
Well since you are going to grab pretty much all the defensive nodes down at the Marauder anyway, the only thing left to consider is this:
Toga, or Loincloth
Any build you can do with Templar, you can do with Witch or Marauder. But they have better starting nodes.

The reason to go Templar before was to get those juicy life+mana regen nodes which were excellent with the old Eldritch Battery.

Now they are decidedly inferior, so no one starts Templar. There still are excellent and widely used nodes in the Templar section, just not the starting ones.
You have to be realistic about these things.
Logen Ninefingers
Top 100 is mostly just the OP/meta/faceroll/clearspeed builds and imho not really representative. I think the duelist is making a big comeback, at least compared to the previous challenge leagues.
But yes the starting templar nodes are simply inferior. Most marauders and witches go into templar area but they can avoid the crappy start nodes.
Last edited by leto2626#2588 on Aug 6, 2015, 7:07:29 AM

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