Glacial Cascade: Hatred + Conc effect or Added Lightning?
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I am having a hard time figuring out which would give me more over all DPS.
Glacial Cascade tooltip is higher with Hatred + Concentrated Effect than it is with Added Lightning Damage. Can anyone help me to understand how the mechanics of these would interact? I am using a 5L carcass with a Taryn Shiver btw. Glacial Cascade + Spell Echo + Life Leech + PCoC + (Conc Effect or Added Lightning) 8009 dps at lvl 18 Hatred lvl 18 Added Lightning Damage 10926 dps at lvl 18 Hatred lvl 17 Concentrated Effect Its an almost 3k increase with Concentrated Effect. Would u need to look at 8009 * 1.5 = 12013 dps when shocked? Thanks for any insight!!! -Feighd |
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" Most people would say that Cold Penetration would be better than both, and they are probably right. Majority of your damage comes from cold (70%ish). See this link for why: http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Penetration |
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Concentrated effect is a multiplier, it's an awesome damage boost to area damage (all damage types at that) and its penalty can be offset easily, a large percentage of AoE users don't leave home without it.
Concentrated effect provides 69% more damage. Added lightning provides 125 lightning damage on average, if we account for damage effectiveness on GC that's a 100. If glacial cascade does 260 damage on max level it turns out that added lightning would give you 38% more damage which is nice but still a lot less than conc effect. Hatred is based on physical damage portion of glacial cascade, which is fairly low. You'd be better off with herald of ice, on level 20 it adds around 60 cold damage to cascade, and hatred adds 36% of physical damage, which is about 30. Wish the armchair developers would go back to developing armchairs. ◄[www.moddb.com/mods/balancedux]► ◄[www.moddb.com/mods/one-vision1]► Last edited by raics#7540 on Sep 9, 2014, 2:45:56 PM
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I am currently running clarity, herald of ice, and hatred.
Am curious to see if haste would be better than hatred tho as it is the only dps increase alternative. Cold penetration huh. Ill look into that. |
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If we assume you got 100% increased cast speed from gear, supports and tree, another 16% increased would give you only 8% more dps, not really worth it. Haste gives best mileage to summoners by far, as minions typically have little attack speed increases, players don't use it often, just go for some defensive aura, you probably need it as a staff user.
Wish the armchair developers would go back to developing armchairs. ◄[www.moddb.com/mods/balancedux]► ◄[www.moddb.com/mods/one-vision1]► Last edited by raics#7540 on Sep 9, 2014, 2:49:59 PM
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I tend to avoid using "x" Penetration support, if the skill happens to deal hybrid damage since the effective of using penetration would be low in comparison to a skill that deals only one type of pure damage. Since you are using Hatred, you are converting a good amount of physical damage to cold damage, effectively making cold damage almost one sided. In that case, I think Cold Penetration will be a huge support gem for Glacial Cascade.
Sometimes you can take the game out of the garage but you can't take the garage out of the game. - raics, 06.08.2016 Last edited by JohnNamikaze#6516 on Sep 9, 2014, 3:15:54 PM
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glacial cascade - life leech - spell echo - added lightning - conc effect/cold pen/pcoc
cold snap - ele prolif - increased aoe - coldpen/pcoc Any suggestions as to the best setup there? I have all 7 power charges available to me. Any other specs you want lemme know and ill put them up. |
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Another option could be Knockback. It works well with GC, effectively adding 1-2 more hits per target. Same thing as 100-200% more dps. Though it will never show up on tool tip dps.
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