Trying to do Mind Over Matter (Duelist)

I'm thinking about doing my build like this:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgQAmSu9gavFR35lTYTZbmlY2yXfvqfEuFPfG_rSTdX4m4Osr6QZwA-E7-eRAdxhIXTtw4a-ihpVeu94DZrMYEupbtBHWK8wdQUtFz5sRrXyRmnh2kCgcmxuqu-GNZKsuiFgnrkyCUrIvrv-j3TxwQc_J50OTeMshRjbhTLXfipNoEKmV1oaW69DnDQ1S0mIWjrhMZ5OKg6twBnyRSmlFHUNAv4KRA23PnGwQYeSu_noaHTaYpSg

Main skill is Double Strike (atm I'm level 26 with Spectral Throw for AOE, but that may change).

Going for Mind Over Matter (hence lots of Mana passives, Mana Regen:140%~ and Reduced Mana 44%~) and probably thinking about doing a lot of Attack Speed.

Tell me what you think.

And no, I won't be investing in EB because I feel like I could put my passives more into defense or I could deal with getting a LOT of mana regen.

1) You're actually a little light on mana for equilibrium. "48%" is not a lot of mana.
2) Even factoring MoM you're gonna be on the squishy side.
3) Mana cost reduction is incidental, as long as you're regenerating mana faster than you're using it you don't need much or any.

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgQAAdwFLQhnDQIVIBc-GDwY2xv6IWAl3yfVKaUqTSyFLOkxnjIJM1Y0NTWSOrM64T8nQKBBh0d-Sn1KyEtJTeNOKlPfWNtaGluvYEtlTWegaHRsFmxGbmluqnJsdO108XrveweD24TZhO-FMod2iPGQCpM6lKCZK5uDnrmkGaZXqW6rxaxZrK-18rc-t6W9J72BvqfAD8AZwQfDhsRYxLjOcdJN1fjXftpi3Q3nY-eR8kX56Pou_Ev8xf4K_o_-vw==

You're taking Mind Over Matter, but its very niche in the way that it vastly increases your survivability IF you need a ridiculously large mana pool and you don't need auras. Yours looks like it doesn't fit either, but I've taken steps to refine your build as I can understand your sentiment in wanting to build something unique.

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AleronDescends wrote:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgQAAdwFLQhnDQIVIBc-GDwY2xv6IWAl3yfVKaUqTSyFLOkxnjIJM1Y0NTWSOrM64T8nQKBBh0d-Sn1KyEtJTeNOKlPfWNtaGluvYEtlTWegaHRsFmxGbmluqnJsdO108XrveweD24TZhO-FMod2iPGQCpM6lKCZK5uDnrmkGaZXqW6rxaxZrK-18rc-t6W9J72BvqfAD8AZwQfDhsRYxLjOcdJN1fjXftpi3Q3nY-eR8kX56Pou_Ev8xf4K_o_-vw==

You're taking Mind Over Matter, but its very niche in the way that it vastly increases your survivability IF you need a ridiculously large mana pool and you don't need auras. Yours looks like it doesn't fit either, but I've taken steps to refine your build as I can understand your sentiment in wanting to build something unique.

Yeah, I liked some of the changes you've done to my build, I did take them and made some changes as well. My Duelist atm is going in a similar direction to your changes

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3) Mana cost reduction is incidental, as long as you're regenerating mana faster than you're using it you don't need much or any.

Yeah it showed that I didn't really need those, just some good mana leech and flasks at this point (Level 37 atm). I've been able to tank pretty well, though it does get a little scary considering that I seem to have a lot of Life Regen from my gear, and my Mana gets ripped really fast from hard hitting ones, though its a good thing that I'm not losing too much health.

Though I guess I have to thank the really good gear I got from my guild at this point but we'll see.

Here's my updated build by the way.


http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgQAmSu9gavFR35lTYTZbmlY2yXfvqfEuFPfG_rSTdX4m4Osr6QZwA-E73Tteu9gSwUtQKAhYJ65dPHBByyFhTLXfloaNDW2QU4qW68ppd0NOrOQCvzFLOlnoBUgh3YqTUp9PydLSessSsjAGZLNbqoNAqxHtfKS8zWSGYb-j8pKTeNvnsM6pleDCVYtOuExnqx_8kX-Crc-QYf-v_no-i4YPHsHvSczVpM6CGdodNpilKDYTbel

The notable gear I'm using now

The most your mana will ever absorb from a hit is 43% of your maximum life. So you don't need "more" mana available at any one time than that. I recommend using Hybrid Flasks (ONLY) and utilizing both leeches. As long as you aim for that sweet spot your mana won;t go down "faster" than life, and if you surpass it you'll see your mana go down "slower" than your life.

I'm in A3 Merciless with an Acro-MoM build, and it works quite well.

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgQBAdwFLQY5CGcJMwz3EuEUIBg8GJEZLhpVIWAkJSftMHUxnjWSOuE8LUCgQYdHfkrITeNQR1PfVw1Y22EhZU1uaW6qb4RyqXRNdO108XgNecB82YTZhO-FMpHOkzqZK5rMm4OeuZ7NoLSi6qZXpzCpbqvFrKqsr7Xytz677b0nvYG-ir6nvrvAD8OGxBXEuMT2xq7RNtIh0k3V-Nlh4dri6ueR7tnvTu-G8kXzBve--ej7gfuq_gr-jw==

attempted the same with different ways.
Got lucky and found a early cloak of deviance and soultaker(counterproductive).
Ended up with around 80lifereg and 80manareg combines to effective160wholereg
Tried with Tempestshield but TS got nerfed hard and doesnt deal damage, a long time ago as it seems.
Hit the usual wall with lvl60 ending with nearly zero resis and only some life, pretty common on this computer.
Any item with +100mana is like sugar, 2 of em are enough, can also be combined with manaregrings.
Reduced mana wasn´t necessary. Should have never leveled CoDt. As scion could have grabbed +spelldamage. Any manareseve on such a build feels stupid.
As a whole idea = great.
but: Duelist has different options to really migrate damage.
"My" fazit: Regenbuild not ready yet.

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Lachdanan wrote:

As a whole idea = great.
but: Duelist has different options to really migrate damage.

Actually Mind Over Matter is most efficient for a duelist because it transfers damage post mitigation, and Ev/Ar gear has the highest potential baseline mitigation.

Yes, for duelistpurposes:
convert>transfer
Lightningcoil>CoDefiance

Conversions still have the bonus of requesting less armor.
With other words: 10%extratransfer+100Mana wasn´t worth it, "for me", to loose some /Ar.
Despite i did operate with like 500Ar most of the time, which made it a good cheap runnerbuild.

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Autocthon wrote:

The most your mana will ever absorb from a hit is 43% of your maximum life. So you don't need "more" mana available at any one time than that. I recommend using Hybrid Flasks (ONLY) and utilizing both leeches. As long as you aim for that sweet spot your mana won;t go down "faster" than life, and if you surpass it you'll see your mana go down "slower" than your life.

I'm in A3 Merciless with an Acro-MoM build, and it works quite well.

Ahk, atm I'm in A3 Cruel, and so far MoM has been pretty great for me.

So I don't have to gather so much mana? Cause with my build I'm about to get 120% Mana in total (with 220% in Mana Regen Passives).

Right now these are making it so much more amazing for me.