What happened to Recombinators?

I have tried to combine several pairs of rings, each pair had:

- one ring with one prefix, no suffix, rare
- one ring with one suffix, no prefix, rare

These were created with alts/regals/orbs of annullment.
In each craft, I added some benchcrafts (named ones) to increase the odds of getting a 2 affix item.

- What happened was that most of the time, my item resulted in a magic item, one affix, essentially a bricked item.
- In two cases, I got a magic item with two affixes (the prefix from the one ring, and the suffix from the other ring). Almost what I wanted, except for the rarity of the item.
- The rarity was every single time downgraded into magic. And I did like 9 of these crafts.
- What I wanted of course was a rare ring with one prefix and one suffix.

How can this be? Was this intentional? The suffix I used was created by an essence (crit multi), maybe that was the reason? Ring was Vermillion ring.
From my understanding and from what I have read, the rarity of the item is determined by the two inputs. So the outcome should never have been magic to begin with?

I spent a decent amount of currency to make these 1 affix, rare rings.
Seriously, I hate these things about poe. There is no proper documentation how the recominator really works. All is speculation, and you lose so much currency trying out stuff every time..

1 prefix and 1 suffix = magic item. The only way youre gonna have a rare 2 affix item is if you get 2 prefixs or 2 suffixs.

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BlueSkyWhiteSands wrote:

I have tried to combine several pairs of rings, each pair had:

- one ring with one prefix, no suffix, rare
- one ring with one suffix, no prefix, rare

These were created with alts/regals/orbs of annullment.
In each craft, I added some benchcrafts (named ones) to increase the odds of getting a 2 affix item.

- What happened was that most of the time, my item resulted in a magic item, one affix, essentially a bricked item.
- In two cases, I got a magic item with two affixes (the prefix from the one ring, and the suffix from the other ring). Almost what I wanted, except for the rarity of the item.
- The rarity was every single time downgraded into magic. And I did like 9 of these crafts.
- What I wanted of course was a rare ring with one prefix and one suffix.

In general you have a 50% chance to fix the rarity per:
1. Regal.
2. Block suffix/prefix - whichever.
3. Annul. Repeat 2 if needed.

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BlueSkyWhiteSands wrote:

How can this be? Was this intentional? The suffix I used was created by an essence (crit multi), maybe that was the reason?

Probably. If its an exclusive mod (it likely is) then then this is fatal for the method you used.

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BlueSkyWhiteSands wrote:

Ring was Vermillion ring.

Doesnt matter.

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BlueSkyWhiteSands wrote:

From my understanding and from what I have read, the rarity of the item is determined by the two inputs. So the outcome should never have been magic to begin with?

For recomb result it will be rare exactly if it has 2+ prefixes or 2+ suffixes.

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BlueSkyWhiteSands wrote:

I spent a decent amount of currency to make these 1 affix, rare rings.
Seriously, I hate these things about poe. There is no proper documentation how the recominator really works. All is speculation, and you lose so much currency trying out stuff every time..

While I agree in principle (including Recombinators) there is some documentation which explains some parts:
https://old.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1exyavx/325_updated_guide_to_recombinators/
https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Recombinator

Thanks for your comments.

Well the only thing I am wondering is how rarity matters exactly for recombining.

Lets say I have used alts and recomb to make a good ring with t1 prefix and t1 sufix. This ring is magic. Can I use this ring in the recombiantor with a rare ring, or does that decrease my chances to get a final item that is rare (and not magic)?

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BlueSkyWhiteSands wrote:

Thanks for your comments.

Well the only thing I am wondering is how rarity matters exactly for recombining.

Lets say I have used alts and recomb to make a good ring with t1 prefix and t1 sufix. This ring is magic. Can I use this ring in the recombiantor with a rare ring, or does that decrease my chances to get a final item that is rare (and not magic)?

Far as I know: Only the summary prefixes and suffixes matter for the outcome. Rarity of the input items does not matter. (With one possible exception regarding the odds to get an item with 0 affixes as outcome. This however is likely irrelevant anyway in your case.)

So simple answer: Yes, you can use the magic ring.

Alright thanks.