Scrying bugged? Soon 1000 maps without Apothecary

Context:

I'm running Jungle Valley (for good quant/currency altars) with Defiled Cathedral's Divination cards Scry'd to it.

I'm closing in on 1000 maps, as I leveled my first char to level 100 there, and have another at level 99.
First char obviously did some other maps, and is still my T17 runner, but second char has ONLY run Scry'd Jungle Valley.

More Context:

I have farmed Mageblood many times on private leagues/SSF before, and have never seen anything like this before.

I run 5 Ambush scarabs (not Containment ofc) on all my maps, and Atlas Tree is only quant, effect, scarabs, exarch and strongboxes.

My question to you:

What are other people's experiences with Scrying and Div cards this league?
Am I just on the unfortunate side of the bellcurve, is this the new norm, or is scrying possibly bugged?

I've been farming about 7-10 days for Apothecary in Underground Sea (also with scrying map), went for as much quant as possible and used those 800% increased div card scarab every map, zero apothecary.

Just bad RNG/No luck? No Idea, Scrying seems to work cause other 3 cards dropped.

Ironically, i got a mageblood from nameless seer in first week of the league.

Hmm aight, that sounds a lot like my experience, and albeit 2 people is far too little for a conclusion, maybe it is the new norm.

Wonder if it when mobs drops loot this league, a % of loot is converted to gold, which reduces the reamining loot a lot, heavily reducing things like Div cards, thus making rare cards multiplicately more rare... and if this is this case, wonder if a) GGG is aware of it and b) happy with it.

I know MBX got one from a cry on strand. I have been running the apothecary scry too but to not avail.

Nowhere near 1000 maps though ^^. It's just RNG. I had three leagues in a row where I found one and in the past three have found none.

just as a proof of concept however, I have dropped plenty of the card with 6 linked staves in my scried map so it is dropping defiled cathedral div cards, just not the one I want obviously ^^

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FalkenRaiding wrote:

Hmm aight, that sounds a lot like my experience, and albeit 2 people is far too little for a conclusion, maybe it is the new norm.

Wonder if it when mobs drops loot this league, a % of loot is converted to gold, which reduces the reamining loot a lot, heavily reducing things like Div cards, thus making rare cards multiplicately more rare... and if this is this case, wonder if a) GGG is aware of it and b) happy with it.

There is no question that the gold drops are eating some div cards. GGG is aware of it because it was designed that way with conversions.

Now maybe if the numbers do turn out to be low(which I dont know about T0 since their drops are low anyway), they could adjust. It just seems that the rng would be really unlikely to get a rare card drop which then converted to gold. Again, seems unlikely, while possible.

Given that, does it appear apothecary cards are listed abnormally high or low in quantity? I didn't think so when I was playing the first few weeks, but maybe that's changed?

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DarthSki44 wrote:

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FalkenRaiding wrote:

Hmm aight, that sounds a lot like my experience, and albeit 2 people is far too little for a conclusion, maybe it is the new norm.

Wonder if it when mobs drops loot this league, a % of loot is converted to gold, which reduces the reamining loot a lot, heavily reducing things like Div cards, thus making rare cards multiplicately more rare... and if this is this case, wonder if a) GGG is aware of it and b) happy with it.

There is no question that the gold drops are eating some div cards. GGG is aware of it because it was designed that way with conversions.

Now maybe if the numbers do turn out to be low(which I dont know about T0 since their drops are low anyway), they could adjust. It just seems that the rng would be really unlikely to get a rare card drop which then converted to gold. Again, seems unlikely, while possible.

Given that, does it appear apothecary cards are listed abnormally high or low in quantity? I didn't think so when I was playing the first few weeks, but maybe that's changed?

Not sure it's a rare card that is converted, as I believe the loot rolls happen in acending succession like DnD:

1) Mobs dies
2) local mob quanity + global player quantity determines the amount of items drop
3) x % of items converted to gold
4) remaing items are converted into respective loot groups (gear, currency, div cards etc)
5) for each loot group, local mob rarity + global player rarity affects the rarity dicerolls.

If the above is true (which is a fair and logcial assumption) then step 3 is a less multiplier to all loot groups, including div cards, which could easily explain why something could be a lot rarer than before, if step 3) is a significant % conversion.

And because of the reduction in loot group amount, there are fewer attempts for the rarity diceroll to hit the really rare stuff, which means it would likely affect that rare stuff a lot more than some middle of the road rarity card.

Except for the time I've spent doing T17 for the achievements and a few other maps, I've been doing Defiled Cathedral and Desert Springs with Defiled's divinations card scryed there. I've killed around 2 Million monsters there, and so far not a single divination card drop.

I've even been using the scarabs with +800% chance to drop divination cards, and the only thing those monsters drop is a bunch of annoying shard shooting books.

Yea, I guess if everyone is having the same experience, it is not bugged or anything, but quite simply the new norm.

Which again begs the question:

Wonder if GGG is happy with this new norm, or if they didn't ponder the affects that gold conversion would have on such drops, and thus will try to remedy this when implementing gold into core for next league.