Impending Doom Elemental Overload

Hello,
I think I found a bug regarding EO and Impending Doom.
Impending Doom adds a skill in the character sheet where we can see its actual dmg and when allocating EO and having a lot of crit, the damage never increases and I am clearly critting.
I don't know if it's a visual bug/tooltip bug but the damage should be reflected and I am not even sure the EO even works with this skill.
I am using it with Energy Blade and Battlemage giving flat damage to this skill.
Hope someone looks into it.
Best regards
Last edited by graberrr#5432 on Aug 20, 2024, 4:47:26 PM
Last bumped on Aug 21, 2024, 7:49:10 AM
Character sheet is a bad place to look, who know what it does and doesn't add, I don't that's for sure. Have you tried checking POB?

It might also be that your Doom blast does not crit very often? Does it have less crit than the skill that is triggering it? I'm not familiar with this exaclty, but I think the way that EO works now is that doom blast would have to itself crit to get the more damage on subsequent doom blasts within the next 8 seconds.
PoB is just a spreadsheet, can't blidnly believe it but yes it adds the damage. I tried checking with almost 80% crit so its impossible I havent crit. Was observing the damage and it never went up. Doom Blast is a skill granted by Impending Doom support and it has its own crit chance so IT SHOULD be able to crit and gain EO.
I disagree. POB is almost always correct for this stuff, where as the character sheet is frequently wrong or insufficient information. There are certain thing POB cant do, but if it is saying one thing and the character sheet disagrees I will go with POB every time, at least as a starting point. There is a reason everyone uses it and not the character sheet. It's not so much that POB should always be trusted but more that the character sheet should never be trusted.

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Doom support and it has its own crit chance so IT SHOULD be able to crit and gain EO.


Yes I agree.

So what your saying is you can see the damage on the character sheet go up for other skills with EO, but not doom blast?

I'm looking at your current pob, it says your impending doom has 3% crit chance. So you cranked this up over 80% when you were testing?

It's true that allocating EO in POB is assuming you have crit in the last 8 seconds, so that dps increase will be incorrect if you are not critting with doomblast. I don't see anything yet on your build that will prevent it from critting.

2.3 mil to 3.2 mil is a pretty big difference, but it will still be hard to notice. What makes you think it is not applying other than character sheet? I'll see if I can replicate what you are saying with the character sheet, but if it isn't showing, the damage might still be applying and not showing on the character sheet. Someone would have to devise a way for you to test that, or be familiar that it is for sure working/not working to give you an answer.

Last edited by Belegur85#5784 on Aug 20, 2024, 8:26:13 PM
I was testing this before I even started this character and was wasn't running Controlled Destruction till like 2 hours ago and once I switched to it I could feel the damage difference so it would make sense I was not gaining EO bonus dmg before and the character sheet is correct.

A way to test it is just running a lot of crit with impending doom and EO then remove EO and compare the damage.
Yes but how are you comparing the damage? Can you accurately tell the difference between 2.3 constant and 3.2 million conditional? Are you testing on controlled conditions? Like static target that takes a substantial amount to kill and not maps with mods?

I checked on arc. I didn't see it applying increased damage to the character sheet, so I don't think it does. I think there may of been a buff icon for EO in the past, but now that it is per skill I don't think this increase is shown in game at all. I tested on ark because I don't want to deal with the impending doom trigger mechanics, ark is cleaner for testing. I assume this is the same for doom blast that it doesn't show up on the character sheet, even if you are getting the damage bonus. If it was showing for ark I would test it further on impending doom, but it seems to me like it wont show on any skills. Unless you are aware of a skill it is showing on that I should test.

The only other thing it could be that I can think of is that EO doesn't work with triggered skills, but I don't know that to be the case. It says "skills that have dealt a crit" and not If you have crit with a skill. So it should be working as far as I know.
Last edited by Belegur85#5784 on Aug 20, 2024, 8:57:36 PM
I also tested it with Arc and confirmed the damage does not increase in the character sheet. Now the question is why? I can see EO is on with this little diamond on the skill but the damage is not increased and for skills that does not show up theres no way of telling if its on or off. I'd like for examaple check the uptime on my EO but currently theres no way.
Hopefully Mark or someone else sees this and I can have a clear distiction whenever EO is on.
It's because not everything shows up on the character tool tip, they have very basic information for the skill. Maybe it should include this, but that's why I use POB, because I don't know what does and doesn't show up on the character sheet.

You're right, you can see the diamond on the icon. I'm guessing you can't check for it on impending doom because there is no icon to put on the bar? I'm not sure why that is, some other triggered skills like combust can be put on the bar.

I checked this for combust, the diamond indicator is showing up both for default attack and triggered combust. They are independent of each other, and also do not record the damage increase on the character sheet. I would assume if you could put impending doom on the bar it would also show up. I know it's nice to have confirmation of this and not be uncertain that the damage is being applied, but I just don't think EO shows up on the character sheet. It could be because it use to be a global buff that applied to all skills and now isn't, or maybe the character sheet wouldn't show it anyway, like some other buffs. Maybe there is a list somewhere that will let you know what does and doesn't show up on the in-game information layouts.
Last edited by Belegur85#5784 on Aug 21, 2024, 5:12:30 AM
EO not showing up in the sheet dps is a known issue caused by a bug. The keystone does work though.

Edit: spelling
I make dumb builds, therefore I am.
Last edited by FCK42#0688 on Aug 21, 2024, 6:55:35 AM
Ok thanks guys.

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