Zombies - Pride vs Hatred aura?

Using genarosity in the setup what aura would be Best?

Pride vs Hatred?

Pride can't be supported by Generosity.

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MoLoK13 wrote:

Pride can't be supported by Generosity.

What why not? It's an aura??

Sounds wired

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D1SA3LE wrote:

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MoLoK13 wrote:

Pride can't be supported by Generosity.

What why not? It's an aura??

Sounds wired

I guess it's because it directly affects enemies instead of boosting you or your allies.

Pride cant be supported by Gen, yes. Also Pride needs some damage to scale up (4s), but it also does physical damage, which stuns and bosses usually arent resistant to it.

Hatred can give you chills/freezes, can be supported by Gen and EE (pushing res into the negatives), but bosses and some mobs/map mods are resistant to cold damage.

I dont think one is clearly better. But .. are you using EE and other minions doing elemental damage? Do you want to use Impale? With Hatred you wont be able to do any reflect map, since your zombies now do phys AND ele damage. With Pride you still can do ele reflect maps.

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HerrImHimmel wrote:

With Hatred you wont be able to do any reflect map, since your zombies now do phys AND ele damage. With Pride you still can do ele reflect maps.

This is incorrect. My zombies use generosity hatred and have never died in any ele reflect map. I don't even see their life bar slightly go down while killing groups either.

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garrison1 wrote:

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HerrImHimmel wrote:

With Hatred you wont be able to do any reflect map, since your zombies now do phys AND ele damage. With Pride you still can do ele reflect maps.

This is incorrect. My zombies use generosity hatred and have never died in any ele reflect map. I don't even see their life bar slightly go down while killing groups either.

If you say so. Mine certainly did, but then again it wasnt in this patch and they had less hp than they do now.

That depends on how you want to scale. If your goal is strictly to go physical damage, I recommend:
- Pride
- Dread Banner linked to Generosity
- Skitterbots
- Impale Support in your Minion links

Generosity won’t affect Pride since the aura affects enemies, not you. It can still be socketed in the same links though. Skitterbots will grant 24% increased damage taken shock and 12% chill. I’ve done extensive theorycrafting on impale and can assure you it is superior to the alternatives for physical dps.

Pride is better offensively if all of the damage is physical and you are not using War Banner and you don't one shot enemies otherwhise i would go for Hatred
Slightly less damage but chance to Chill and maybe Freeze

Imagine using Triad's Grip with 4 or 3 Green sockets
Suddenly Hatred is amazing

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MasterTBC wrote:

Pride is better offensively if all of the damage is physical and you are not using War Banner and you don't one shot enemies otherwhise i would go for Hatred
Slightly less damage but chance to Chill and maybe Freeze

Imagine using Triad's Grip with 4 or 3 Green sockets
Suddenly Hatred is amazing

Hatred is amazing regardless. It gives 36% extra damage as cold with a max generosity on it in a +2 aura gems corrupted piece of gear. I've ran pride before. I wasn't impressed by it. You usually clear groups instantly and the ramp up in damage over 4 seconds would only work against literally a hand full of bosses since you shred them fast as well. Hatred's damage is always active and the freezing and chilling is impossible for me personally to give up.

But that's the mindset of the average PoE player. Worry only about damage and not about defense / mitigations as much. The fact is that you don't need the ridiculous dps that people post in their build guides, which are usually wrong most of the time anyways but whatever. Being able to survive hits while taking maybe 1-2 seconds longer to kill something will always be higher priority in my builds.