Fast builds ruined PoE for me

This league basically proved me that the promotion of fast builds and the inability to not be a sheep ruined this league for me.

I played 2 builds that i successfully took to the endgame. Poison BV as a starter and then I threw most of my currency onto a Bow Ele Hit.

Both builds are based around speed and avoidance rather than survivability as it is supposed to be. I tried couple other builds that seemed interesting, but compared to these two cookie cutters, everything seems blend and uninteresting. Even summoner (tried Soulwrest) feels just bad, especially with the lag connected to it.

The problem is that I never actually bother to "play the game", these fast builds basically turn PoE into idle game - you run around, nothing can touch you and you overkill all the content without much effort. After I saw some HC HoAG Jugg, it reminded me how interesting the game was before these brain dead builds existed.

Since I do not intent to farm 36/40 challenges and there is nothing I would really want to try, I guess this league is over for me.

Maybe reroll HC SSF and get some out of the box experience, but for SC scrub, POE had become idle game where nothing really matters.

Well.. for me the world isn't that dark, but yes, I agree with you that they should stop powercreeping.

I still remember the times where oba's really was a tough dps check for me, getting everything killed (and survive) until the clock hits zero. And now? I get the first time warning at 4/5 and just faceroll through the map.

the overall dps numbers rise in every season but the content.. well.. either it get's trialized because it can't keep up with the dps increase (shaper/elder/uber elder) or it ends up in a pure match who hits first (deep delve).

I imagine 4.0 will rebalance some of the end game encounters to put them more in line with the ever increasing power creep.

For now however, there are options to make the game harder and slower if you so wish, even on softcore. If farming challenges/currency is not your goal, then playing on trade league doesn't make much sense in my opinion - you should try SSF, or private leagues.

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Marxone wrote:

This league basically proved me that the promotion of fast builds and the inability to not be a sheep ruined this league for me.

ok

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I played 2 builds that i successfully took to the endgame. Poison BV as a starter and then I threw most of my currency onto a Bow Ele Hit.

ok x2?

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Both builds are based around speed and avoidance rather than survivability as it is supposed to be. I tried couple other builds that seemed interesting, but compared to these two cookie cutters, everything seems blend and uninteresting. Even summoner (tried Soulwrest) feels just bad, especially with the lag connected to it.

So... Your first two builds were typical glass cannons we softcore players love so much and when you played slow and tanky builds it felt boring.
And you say that trash and boring "survivability" builds is what softcore players should play just because "reasons".

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The problem is that I never actually bother to "play the game", these fast builds basically turn PoE into idle game - you run around, nothing can touch you and you overkill all the content without much effort. After I saw some HC HoAG Jugg, it reminded me how interesting the game was before these brain dead builds existed.

Slow builds are boring.
Fast builds are bad.

Have you considered playing different genre? But if you want to stick with POE then i dont know, maybe ignore meta and play "interesting HoAG Jugg" builds instead of trying to force whole playerbase into playing your "slow is boring, fast is bad" game?

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karoollll2534 wrote:

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Where do I force anything on other? Are you seeing in red because of the need of false outrage?
Get our of here dude. I am not curious about your opinion on my feedback.

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Marxone wrote:

Where do I force anything on other? Are you seeing in red because of the need of false outrage?

I strongly believe we are currently in "feedback" part of this forum.
You know, place that let people express their feelings, share ideas and write general opinion about stuff in hopes that somebody up there will read and adress this issues.

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Both builds are based around speed and avoidance rather than survivability as it is supposed to be.

In other words this says that current situation/problem that makes YOU dissatisfied is existence of "zoom zoom" builds.

Later you say:

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The problem is that I never actually bother to "play the game", these fast builds basically turn PoE into idle game - you run around, nothing can touch you and you overkill all the content without much effort.

Again "zoom zoom" builds are bad...

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After I saw some HC HoAG Jugg, it reminded me how interesting the game was before these brain dead builds existed.

...And even existence of build that matches your preferences of "building around survivability" is not enough.
If you are not asking GGG to forcibly shift meta by harming "zoom zoom builds" then what exactly are you trying to achieve?

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Get our of here dude. I am not curious about your opinion on my feedback.

Much WoW. With such an attitude all i can say is:
Get out of here dude. You are wasting precious forum space with your trash feedback.

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karoollll2534 wrote:

...And even existence of build that matches your preferences of "building around survivability" is not enough.
If you are not asking GGG to forcibly shift meta by harming "zoom zoom builds" then what exactly are you trying to achieve?

That’s exactly what should happen, not only meta but for the whole contet. The power creep made everything terrible because GGG had to increase the damage output from the enemies so that they can stop you. Now, either you have a “zoom zoom build” and basically melt content and fight to see who gets richer or you die trying to get to endgame... a lot... which it would be fine if the content weren’t that unbalanced.

I really hope for a “new” game at 4.0, a game where things take time to go through not a game where “let’s enter to kill the boss... done” Is the rule.


A quick edit: slow builds are boring because people get used to have fast builds not because the content gets bored with them.

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karoollll2534 wrote:

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well I don't know why you need to rephrase the obvious ambivalence from my post by your parsing each paragraph when it states CLEAR MESSAGE you CLEARLY GET.

You could just type "It is 'YOU' type of problem" and i would reply - Yes, I know.

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karoollll2534 wrote:

In other words this says that current situation/problem that makes YOU dissatisfied is existence of "zoom zoom" builds.

For f*** sake, EVERYTHING in PoE pushes and encourage players to go for those "zoom zoom" builds, clear speed is clearly, blatantly a metric to judge and differentiate well built characters from other.
The randomness of drops, monster density, the timers, pretty much everything is an incentive to go faster in Path of Exile.

GGG should be making sure that some builds / archetypes are not absurdly strong and fast compared to others, and that going fast isn't always the best way to play the game, yet they don't do any of that.



YES, speed is a problem, killing the content before it can interact is the problem, absurd damage is a problem (partly because the little bit where the content can react will be pushed to be more and more dangerous in response, screwing up slower builds big time in the process), sorry for stating the obvious ...

I have to agree with OP. This league I got to maps in 4hr 50min and it has ruined Poe for me.

Playing any other slow build is beyond painful.

Not to mention farming on a zoom zoom build is literally faster and more efficient.

The build variety in this game died for me.