[3.5] Occultist Vortex/Cold Snap ES/CI - Deathless and Safe Uber Elder and T16's

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Idarroc wrote:

Thanks for the compliments!

As far as your questions...

1. Vaal Discipline allows you to still have Discipline, as well as the Vaal version, all on one gem. Vaal skills are now instant, and with Vaal Discipline, we do not have to wait for our ES to start regeneration, it starts as soon as you pop the vaal skill. Its one gem, two skills! It helps if you cannot find a safe stop to stop taking damage, I usually pop it right before a big fight with Syndicate members or things like that.

2. Typically people would use what was referred to as the "Vorici Method" but I believe 3 link recipies are MIA at the moment? I am currently running my CWDT in a 3 link, and then phase run does not have Inc Duration on it, its just in my boots. Easy fix for now, but not ideal for end game min/maxing ;)

Hope this helps!



1. Ahh that makes sense, I'll have to get a vaal version and use that instead.

2. Not come across the Vorici method but I'm sure google will be my friend there, thanks and i'll hopefully have more luck with it if the 3 link recipes are in game.

Thanks for answering :)
Last edited by CipherNox#6429 on Dec 30, 2018, 5:55:35 AM
Looking forward to the crafting part of the guide, trying to make a better weapon soon after I mass farm some fossils since I skipped delve league and have no idea what I'm doing :P
Last edited by obake1#0447 on Dec 30, 2018, 6:33:41 AM
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bridgeburner wrote:

Also, I saw you guys talking about this earlier, but 3-socket recipe is still in the game. You find all the vorici recipes in Delve. Go run your first delve again to find the early ones and then just keep running them until you find them all.


Thanks for this... found the 2 and 3 socket recipe in delve like you said. It was at the first azurite cavity after entering the mines (depth 2, monster lvl 35)

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So I league started soemthing very similar to this. like within 5-10 passive points similar. I respec'd to yours to try it out and grabbed a couple new pieces of gear. got myself to 11.2k ES. Getting dex is a real bitch on this build. I cant change my Amulet out because i rely on the stats it gives


One change I'm considering is dropping 4 points from somewhere and getting Whipsers of Doom for 2 curses. I'm using a Heritic Veil helm so it grants level 22 blasp. and I would link enlighten, temp chain, enffeble. EHP would be lower because +es nodes are probably the only/best way to get those 4 points but perma temp chains + enfeeble aura could potentially make up for it


My gear at the moment..

Last edited by DotsandDashes#5054 on Dec 30, 2018, 8:13:15 AM
Does having added lightning damage to spells on an abyss jewel break anything with elemental equilibrium? EE is confusing. Vortex does seem to have a hit portion before the Degen so it should trigger EE against cold and lightning?
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Juts wrote:
Does having added lightning damage to spells on an abyss jewel break anything with elemental equilibrium? EE is confusing. Vortex does seem to have a hit portion before the Degen so it should trigger EE against cold and lightning?


EE only trigger on HIT vortex does have an initial hit that proc EE but if you have an orb of storm or storm brand that hit after your vortex it will trigger the right resist (just dont add cold damage to your spell on your gear otherwise orb of storm will trigger cold resist too :p)
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bridgeburner wrote:
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IronBodyGamer wrote:
As someone who is fairly new isn't Zealot's Oath a dead skill point since you have zero regen? Or is there something to this mechanic i am just not understanding?


It makes life regeneration apply to our energy shield instead of hp. We get about 1.4% life regen (converted to es regen) from the tree, and also we use a sulphur flask which gives us 6% life regen (converted to es regen).

So that's 7.4% of our max ES regenerated per second when these are up. For example, if your ES is 8000, that's about 500 es per second.



Cheers for the explanation!! Also any ETA on the how to craft gear part? No rush I already appreciate how fast you've updated this guide. Tremendous work, this helped me down my very first Elder today! :) will attempt shaper then ubers next.
Update - This is taking longer than expected because last night, on 12/29, my Fiance fell and broke her arm. I have spent the last 12-14 hours in the hospital and hanging out with her, but I will update this crafting section and add more context as soon as possible. I hope to have time today while she is napping, or possibly later tonight (12/30)
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Idarroc wrote:
Update - This is taking longer than expected because last night, on 12/29, my Fiance fell and broke her arm. I have spent the last 12-14 hours in the hospital and hanging out with her, but I will update this crafting section and add more context as soon as possible. I hope to have time today while she is napping, or possibly later tonight (12/30)


Sorry to hear that bro! Hang in there.
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bridgeburner wrote:
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Idarroc wrote:
Update - This is taking longer than expected because last night, on 12/29, my Fiance fell and broke her arm. I have spent the last 12-14 hours in the hospital and hanging out with her, but I will update this crafting section and add more context as soon as possible. I hope to have time today while she is napping, or possibly later tonight (12/30)


Sorry to hear that bro! Hang in there.


I'm good, it is her who is in pain! Good news, its not disjointed, so it will likely not require surgery, but she did have 2 breaks, one in her radius and the other in the ulna. She is in a splint for the next 2-3 days, and then we go to the Ortho to get more X-Rays and a hard cast (hopefully no surgery.)

She is just in a ton of pain, so my time is better spent making her comfortable then meticulously formatting a guide ;)

It does bother me though it is 90% done, with a key part missing.

I will try to work on this today like I said!

Thanks for the patience!

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