Slayer - Bow Poison/Stun (NEED HELP understanding poison damage & Stun via poison)
Hey folks.
Trying to figure out whether stun and poison would work together on a build. I have little to no true understanding for creating a reliable stun build. I have no true understanding in how to create a good poison build. (have looked around at other builds - but no one puts poison and stun together. Also, I could not find poison on a slayer...) I threw Path of building template together to try to understand poison damage. But I seem to completely miss the boat. Poison damage appears to be insignificant. I would obviously like to understand how to increase base poison per arrow as well as determine whether poison damage could actually induce stuns effectively...health, saves, defenses - I could try to figure out how to put it together after stun reliability and poison damage gets worked out :) I chose Slayer because I wanted the culling effect together with stun so I could poison and easily wait out the poison to take effect with enemies "stun-locked" Path of building below. 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Interesting idea :)
First and foremost, remember that poison cannot stun. It's an ailment that deals damage over time, and stuns require hits. However, I know what you're looking for - how to reliably stun with a chaos damage build that also happens to apply poison. _____ Now, to be totally honest, trying to make a poison-stun build would be quite difficult. This is because poison works best with added flat chaos damage and very high attack speed, while stun works best with damage scaled from high base weapon damage (which often leads to using weapons with slower attack speeds). Please note the calculation for stun: * Stun chance = 200 x (Your Damage ÷ Target's Max Life) Since a single hit's damage is presumably much higher in heavy-hitting skills and setups, they are more likely to stun. Likewise, a single hit from flat added chaos damage is less likely to stun. Of course, you can influence this with "Reduced Stun Threshold," but there will be situations where your stun chance is simply negligible (e.g. enemies with large life pools, bosses, etc.). Overall, the mechanics of poison and the mechanics of stun don't mesh well with one another. That's not to say it's impossible to stun with a chaos damage/poison-applying build; I'm just saying it'll be hard to pull off (but hey, creating builds is what theorycrafting is all about!). _____ In regards to your PoB: * I'd remove "Stun" from your attack setups. Although the high amount of reduced stun threshold is tempting, it has diminishing returns starting around 75%. Definitely strive for 100% chance to poison on hit, so if you don't plan on using Dendrobate for the build, then "Poison" or "Lesser Poison" (depending on how much chance to poison on hit you have on your gear and passive tree) are possible alternatives. * I'd also remove "Unbound Ailments" from your attack setups since it only benefits damage over time (you want gems that will ensure high damage from the hit for successful stuns, but also scales the resulting poison damage afterwards). Possible alternatives are "Void Manipulation" and "Withering Touch." * Try to incorporate Warlord's Mark into your build. It increases the chances of enemies getting stunned (as well as provide other defenses). Consider using Asenath's Chant to apply Warlord's Mark [and other utility spells] without much effort. _____ I'm intrigued to see where you take this build. Good luck! |
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Thank you for your response. It was informative and kinda reiterated my concerns.
the other day, I spent quite a bit of time playing around with POB. From what I can tell, I need to move away from utilizing some of the unique items chosen (which increased poison) to add some other alternative damage sources and then convert those to chaos damage which would then increase my poison output. Because starting from chaos alone did not seem like there was a big enough direct damage pool. Voltaxic Rift bow comes to mind. Which means I could focus on elemental lightening damage which should be pretty easy to do. However, once I am doing this - going for big upfront hits - I see no real gain of focusing on poison as lightening elemental damage should be solid enough on its own. I guess the idea to poison is that it bypasses elemental resistances and helps provide add-on damage (but seems to me too big of opportunity cost...) I also wonder how this bow mixes with "call of the brotherhood" ring. Freeze, shock, stun and knock-back sounds quite awesome. Add an ice-wall behind boss and fire at PB range... Add culling from Slayer and culling strike (does this stack with Slayer??) from support gem or unique item. I have to run this through POB to see if poison is even worth the effort. (I really like the feel and flavor of the poison uniques in this game, though) Also, shock really adds a nice chunk of damage to trigger stuns. I will play around a bit more in POB when I can next get the chance :) thanks for reading. |
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