Donald Trump and US politics

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faerwin wrote:

I know it's crazy but you can accept the faith of muslism without accepting the way their government run.

Yeah it's crazy, because Islam knows no separation of mosque and state. There is no muslim majority country, that is not a dictatorship or is based heavily on teocratic laws. Even Turkey is now reverting back to islamism.

Sharia creep is slow, but steady. And liberals are helping it. Some day you'll see the same attempts at hunting gays in Britain or France, you just need to bring in a critical mass of islamists and do nothing to fight their ideology.

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faerwin wrote:

There's still a high amount of countries with a majority of christians that persecute gay people.

Usual attempt at shifting blame. Name one that is not in the third world.

Here let me help you with this map: LGBT rights by country or territory. How nicely LGBT persecution overlays with the islamic and african 3rd world... (the two sources of mass migration to the West)

Leftist liberals can do the math when christian fundamentalists are involved, but somehow your computing power goes NULL when islamists are involved. Fascinating.

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soneka101 wrote:

My point is that Trump Voters, and maybe even republican voters, put politicians in office that could do harm to them, and honestly that's not the biggest problem(that is something that could happen when it comes to any politician), the problem is that when that possible harm is becoming reality, they don't oppose their own guy, even though it's against their interest.

8 years under Bush showed Republicans do indeed do this. 8 years under Obama proved Democrats are not one any better. Where were the protests about Obama failing to close Gitmo? I imagine the same place as the "a fence is not a wall" signholders.

I don't think it's factually incorrect to say the typical Democrat-supporting MSM propaganda consumer is part of a mass movement that is destroying Western civilization. It would be deeply hypocritical; every 8 years or so they'll tag out and Republican-supporting MSM propaganda consumers will be failing to hold their leaders accountable. The thing about hypocrisy is it usually involves people saying true things without the courage to look inward... but true things nevertheless.

It might be too late, but when our asshole politicians fail to perform to reasonable expectations we need to consistently remove them. Like kidnappers we need to hold their jobs ransom and state our demands. Considering how unpopular Congress is, the incumbent reelection rate is mind boggling.

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

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soneka101 wrote:

My point is that Trump Voters, and maybe even republican voters, put politicians in office that could do harm to them, and honestly that's not the biggest problem(that is something that could happen when it comes to any politician), the problem is that when that possible harm is becoming reality, they don't oppose their own guy, even though it's against their interest.

8 years under Bush showed Republicans do indeed do this. 8 years under Obama proved Democrats are not one any better. Where were the protests about Obama failing to close Gitmo? I imagine the same place as the "a fence is not a wall" signholders.

I don't think it's factually incorrect to say the typical Democrat-supporting MSM propaganda consumer is part of a mass movement that is destroying Western civilization. It would be deeply hypocritical; every 8 years or so they'll tag out and Republican-supporting MSM propaganda consumers will be failing to hold their leaders accountable. The thing about hypocrisy is it usually involves people saying true things without the courage to look inward... but true things nevertheless.

It might be too late, but when our asshole politicians fail to perform to reasonable expectations we need to consistently remove them. Like kidnappers we need to hold their jobs ransom and state our demands. Considering how unpopular Congress is, the incumbent reelection rate is mind boggling.

Blame should go where it is deserved. Why don't you blame the congress for blocking him on Guantanamo?

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

8 years under Bush showed Republicans do indeed do this. 8 years under Obama proved Democrats are not one any better. Where were the protests about Obama failing to close Gitmo? I imagine the same place as the "a fence is not a wall" signholders.

Although I won't deny that democrats might do the same, I don't think Gitmo is the best example to compare with trumpcare and etc. When it comes to trumpcare, net neutrality and etc. the answer is simple, "don't do it". But when it comes to Gitmo things aren't that simple, nobody has a good plan on what they should do with it's current prisoners.

Besides that, it's not a good comparison because it's not like Republicans went out in democrats place to hold Obama accountable for that either. They might have criticized him for not accomplishing it, but they didn't pressure him to do it either. Also, it's not clear that having Gitmo bay open is against liberals interest, but weakening net neutrality is against republicans/conservatives interests.

Maybe the bombings on the middle east might have been a better example, but I'm not sure if liberals didn't protest that, the polls at least showed that the majority didn't approve of it either, so I guess that if republicans did protest that, them and the liberals were on the same page.

Outside of that I'm not aware of a time where liberals/democrats "trusted" republicans/conservatives to oppose Obama in defending their interests.

A quick google on "things obama did voter base opposed" didn't show me anything substantial.

The best way to solve the opioid crisis: Lock every drug user up. (/s)

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-politics-sessions-drugwar-20170511-story.html

Better build more of those private prisons.

This morning's tweets are spicy as fuck:

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The_Reporter wrote:

There can't still be anyone on board with this lunatic. Can there?

You overestimate the average American.

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SarahAustin wrote:

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The_Reporter wrote:

There can't still be anyone on board with this lunatic. Can there?

Well, he didnt get the majority vote as it is, so no, the average american hates him and after he took office even more. Unless he rigs the 2020 election he wont win that one. There will always be people stupid enough to think Trump is MAGA.

Unless Hilary Clinton tries running for president again. And tbh I'll be surprised if Trump doesnt end up being assassinated.