How does the damage conversion work with Frost Blades & Avatar of Fire?

Frost Blades is 40% Physical to Cold, does it end up being 50% of the remaining 60% phys being turned into Fire, the 40% cold being turned to fire, and the remaining 10% Physical going to waste since I can't deal non-fire damage? Resulting in 90% effectiveness and pure fire? Or does it work some other way?
Last bumped on Nov 13, 2016, 3:12:01 PM
The total that is not fire damage will be cut in half.If 50% of your damage is none fire then your dps will be 75% of what it was after Avatar of fire,that is how I understand it.Doesn't matter what is converted to what if it isn't fire.If I am wrong then maybe I will learn something.
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Order of damage conversion.
Physical → Lightning → Cold → Fire → Chaos

So before Avatar of Fire converts to fire, Frostblades first converts to cold.
Damage with Frostblades
60% phys, 40% cold

Damage with Frostblades and Avatar of Fire
30% phys, 30% fire / 20% cold, 20% fire

Since Avatar of Fire prevents non-fire damage you're now looking at 50% fire damage.

Addendum: Yeah, I think I may've messed that up.
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Last edited by crystalwitch#6044 on Nov 13, 2016, 4:50:21 AM
I think it first converts the 100% physical to 40% cold, 50% fire, 10% Physical.

Then it takes the cold damage, and converts half of it to Fire, so now you have 20% Cold, 70% fire, 10% physical.

Then the drawback of Avatar of fire just stops the non-fire damage from being dealt, so you just end up dealing 70% of the base physical damage as Fire.
3 posts, 3 different answers. Glad to see I'm not the only one who needs an explanation =D
Alright so GoldDragon32 is correct, it's 70% of the original damage as Fire. I had a character with a full reset and pathed up to Avatar of Fire without taking any kind of damage nodes and stripped myself of gear except for a pure physical DPS weapon. 252.1 DPS Frost Blade before AoF, 176.7 after AoF. 176.7/252.1 = 0.70 and change.
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GoldDragon32 wrote:
I think it first converts the 100% physical to 40% cold, 50% fire, 10% Physical.

Then it takes the cold damage, and converts half of it to Fire, so now you have 20% Cold, 70% fire, 10% physical.

Then the drawback of Avatar of fire just stops the non-fire damage from being dealt, so you just end up dealing 70% of the base physical damage as Fire.



This is the right answer.

Also, I think that if you were to use the Pyre ring (100% of cold to fire) you would end up doing 90% of your original damage as fire. I dont know of any way to get to 100% of the damage dealt with Frost Blades and Avatar of fire.
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MANGUERA wrote:
Also, I think that if you were to use the Pyre ring (100% of cold to fire) you would end up doing 90% of your original damage as fire. I dont know of any way to get to 100% of the damage dealt with Frost Blades and Avatar of fire.

Hrimsorrow gloves (and thus also Hrimburn) grant Phys to Cold conversion :)
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MANGUERA wrote:
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GoldDragon32 wrote:
I think it first converts the 100% physical to 40% cold, 50% fire, 10% Physical.

Then it takes the cold damage, and converts half of it to Fire, so now you have 20% Cold, 70% fire, 10% physical.

Then the drawback of Avatar of fire just stops the non-fire damage from being dealt, so you just end up dealing 70% of the base physical damage as Fire.



This is the right answer.

Also, I think that if you were to use the Pyre ring (100% of cold to fire) you would end up doing 90% of your original damage as fire. I dont know of any way to get to 100% of the damage dealt with Frost Blades and Avatar of fire.


Think I get it now but seems wrong way of doing it,I assumed AoF was applied last and not following a universal rule.

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Vipermagi wrote:
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MANGUERA wrote:
Also, I think that if you were to use the Pyre ring (100% of cold to fire) you would end up doing 90% of your original damage as fire. I dont know of any way to get to 100% of the damage dealt with Frost Blades and Avatar of fire.

Hrimsorrow gloves (and thus also Hrimburn) grant Phys to Cold conversion :)



Chernobog's Pillar would work too.

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