[2.6/3.1] Shaper down on budget 5-link - The Debuffing Pizza (Tri-Curse CI Elementalist Flameblast)

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deadmanwalkin wrote:
currently leveling this. build is fun, I can live with the fact that I'm still squishy as fuck because I am wearing leveling uniques.

however, manacost is enormous, even though I have still 2 elreon jewelery equipped. how do you handle the high mana cost in endgame? is it only the .2% leech boot enchant later on or is there something else?


Hi, you can use a reduced mana cost gem, it's the easiest solution, but I wanted faster casting as my 6th link so I solved my mana problems with a second elreon ring. Had to drop temp chains blasphemy because of that, but it's not a big deal because the es pool is huge (have 13.7k at the moment, can get better with a chest or shield upgrade) and vaal discipline is great :D
I also use a lvl 6 clarity, can't level it further because I use Haste at the moment, but want to change it soon to another more useful aura or back to temp chains when I get a +1 curse chayula.
Some mana regen on gear helps too, which gives me a total mana regen of ~68mana/s.
It's not enough to sustain the fb channel 24/7 but it feels just right. Only time i run out of mana is in boring bossfights where i don't have to move and could cast 10stack fb all the time.
Surprisingly i can run 60% reduced mana regen maps too. No regen maps are fine if you want to use a mana flask, but i just reroll them.

My gear if you want to take a look:
Spoiler
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odayodie wrote:
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Ulren001 wrote:
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odayodie wrote:
any idea for upgrade? i bought all the es gears with resis to play ele weakness mode
i dont really know how to link my gear here :D


Hello,

Good stuff bro :), but i think you don't take the best weapon for this build. A scepter with elemental damage is better than spell damage (spell damage increase dps of FB, not burning damage i think) > so Doryani's with good ED is the first choice.

Something else : change your armor to have more ES. I don't think that having a one more level gem bonus is Worth compared to the huge bonus of a good ES armor. Mostly if you already play with empower max. Furthermore, that inscrease the mana cost of FB : less of mana and flexibility for damage that you don't really need.


It's a detail but increase IAoE to 20% quality to have a bonus of area damage. And enchant of course, but so boring to farm if (like me) you are not lucky ...

(sorry for my english, not native)

Ulren




is using huge es armour better than skin of the loyal for sure?


Well, I think so.

Need to be calculate with a planner/calculator for sure.

How many ES have you now (without aura) ?

And just my return about this build :

Amazing, really love it. But i'm really surprise and disapointe by the différence of boss's life between one and two party player. 3 shoot minotaur solo, most dangerous and difficult with my mate. He play aurabot, of course he deal no damage, but so i have some huge bonus in ES (2k) and tooltips (with empower, CE and auras, I have 12K tooltip flameblast), and he played 2 vaal discipline ...

Lot of wipe with the shaper. In this configuration, I feel that my partner's bonuses do not compensate for the increase in shaper's life.

Last edited by Ulren001#1172 on Feb 6, 2017, 5:40:50 AM
A big thanks for this great build which drives me for the first time to the end game. I managed to kill the Shaper for the first time on my second run, and achieve 36 challenges !

Here is my final gear and passive tree, lvl 94 :



The overflowing chalice is only for trying how it turns, but i don't feel it is really useful, i don't use that many flask charges. Maybe a simple magic Sulphur Flask would be enough ?

I picked up the notable Deep Thoughts (North North West of Witch) to have more mana regen, and my helmet enchantement (bought it) helps a lot with Clarity, which i couldn't use without it.

With more skill points i think going deeper toward Coordination (East of Shadow start) should increase a lot the burning damage.

Guardians run pretty smoothly (Phoenix is quite boring and long due to having a hard time to ignite ^^), except for the Chimera who makes me sweat at each cloud phase ^^.

The Shaper is a very manageable. The only real hard time is when adds spawn from the portal : it seems that they're immune to any status ailment because no ele prolif occur when i kill them, draining all my mana to kill them, and Zana dying often at this time (which means guaranteed death on the Shaper's pink balls of Hell xD)

I switched from Vaal Lightning Trap to Vaal Righteous fire lately, to see how it works and .... it is really dangerous ^^. You near one shot any boss with this (after procing EE and cursing) but you need to time perfectly to not cast it just before being hit.

Breach, breach domains, and breachlords were pretty easy.
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deadmanwalkin wrote:
currently leveling this. build is fun, I can live with the fact that I'm still squishy as fuck because I am wearing leveling uniques.

however, manacost is enormous, even though I have still 2 elreon jewelery equipped. how do you handle the high mana cost in endgame? is it only the .2% leech boot enchant later on or is there something else?


You can find some Mana Regen mod on your shield or ring. Or you can use Reduced Mana for the 6th link. By doing so you probably won't notice any "lost" in DPS because 5-link is already overkill for most scenario, but you will gain substantial QoL improvement if mana management is an issue for you. Besides, using a proper mana pot (see the Gear Section for details) helps a lot.
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loonger wrote:
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deadmanwalkin wrote:
currently leveling this. build is fun, I can live with the fact that I'm still squishy as fuck because I am wearing leveling uniques.

however, manacost is enormous, even though I have still 2 elreon jewelery equipped. how do you handle the high mana cost in endgame? is it only the .2% leech boot enchant later on or is there something else?


You can find some Mana Regen mod on your shield or ring. Or you can use Reduced Mana for the 6th link. By doing so you probably won't notice any "lost" in DPS because 5-link is already overkill for most scenario, but you will gain substantial QoL improvement if mana management is an issue for you. Besides, using a proper mana pot (see the Gear Section for details) helps a lot.




Vaal clarity is nice too.
Amazing build , really fun and a lot of mobility.
Just have a few questions

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/thorgal2/characters - My profile

What is a pretty big upgrade that is worth doing at this point ?
Should i get a shield with around 35-50% spell damage ?
Should I just dual wield Doryani's scepter ?
Should I get other jewels ?

I want to push my dmg as much as I possibly can :D

Thank you
Last edited by thorgal2#0790 on Feb 14, 2017, 12:13:30 PM
Hello there, I tried following your build, but my damage is still not enough i think, i am also very squishy, now, i know i don't have 12k ES, i still have to work on that, but about the damage, can i somehow improve it through my gear/gem setup? I have managed to kill the minotaur and the hydra, but regarding the phoenix, he's hp drops very very slowly... :(
here's my build : https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/victorious91/characters
thank you
Umm about the ascendancy, which one to take? theres no ascendancy named Conflux in Witch tree, nor Profileration one... can anyone write me which ones to take pl0z?
Last edited by lambrioza#3040 on Feb 16, 2017, 12:40:57 PM
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lambrioza wrote:
Umm about the ascendancy, which one to take? theres no ascendancy named Conflux in Witch tree, nor Profileration one... can anyone write me which ones to take pl0z?


I made an image after I had to wiki these myself.

Elementalist
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Wermine wrote:
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lambrioza wrote:
Umm about the ascendancy, which one to take? theres no ascendancy named Conflux in Witch tree, nor Profileration one... can anyone write me which ones to take pl0z?


I made an image after I had to wiki these myself.

Elementalist


That note on the Pendulum lol

Congrats on hitting 40/40!

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