[2.4 Trickster] Grocery's Caustic Arrow Trickster Shadow! HC Viable!

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ViciousGhost wrote:
where u get your intelligence from, i have massive problems with mana and leveling up intelligence skills, im currently lvl59 and my stats are:

int: 68
strength: 74
dext: 308

i cant use clarity because i cant even lvl it to lvl2, how u get intelligence up to even lvl conc effect , and vulner, and how u dont rn out of mana ? i need a flask for every mob

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Last edited by mezmery#2042 on Dec 31, 2015, 4:40:45 PM
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Last edited by muir#5779 on Jan 14, 2016, 12:05:00 PM
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muir wrote:
I am running an IR version of this build in HC Tali right now, if anyone has any questions about that approach. Swapping back and forth with MF gear sets to farm low level alch and go.

Basically hovering around 16k armour/36k w/ jade up, 8 & 11 sec flask durations, 5300 life and 800 es.

I'm also using
because it's a fine way to create pseudo-AOE without either AOE investment or pierce.

I only have a 5 link +2 bow right now unfortunately so I'm running into a bit of a dmg wall at tier 12.


I haven't seen that quiver yet :o

Have you compared dmg with the 3 pierce nodes + drillneck to it?
Last edited by RubyAura#1322 on Dec 31, 2015, 11:05:04 PM
Update on current stats :

Level 86, 6.5K hp, 11k armour (52% phys reduc), 6 frenzy charges
15k tooltip dmg on +3bow / 5L / +30% dmg over time bow

I decided to shift from phase acro to iron reflexes as I believe it's not worth basing my defense on an all or nothing decider.

I'm still having trouble getting the damage I need, i'm not sure what I am missing, if someone could point it out or share some advice i'd appreciate it.

Heres my gear



My gear might be a tad bad at the moment as I just scavenged to get 191 strength to wear my Kaom's. I feel my bow is very good, and it's next on my list for an upgrade as I am going to attempt to 6L it and perhaps try to exalt a resistance or two.

Heres my passives

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwYAAF4DHgUtBbUHHgguDY0OSBEvEZYTbRQJFHUWvxjbGY4fQSLqI_YknSaIJpUppSpbKwouIzB8MgE2PTfUPs9DMUkTSVFKfUz_TZJOKlFHUuxVS1WFWhpbr1xAXfJh4mJaYqxqjGyMdO108XWedoJ67311gl6ExYd2h8uJ4I19jb-P-pMfk5mVLpsmm42btZ2qotmjiqXLp5uw2LIZtMW00bVItzC7nr3mwuzDM8M6yAzIFMu9zxXPetN-2sHfmOOf5ljmgejW62PtP-2D7g7vevDV9W_8xf66?accountName=typicalbrony&characterName=they

My playstyle is safe and calculated. I like to progress slow and safely, so I do not plan to change my setup until I can effectively use and afford a Lightning Coil and Taste of Hate.
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typicalbrony wrote:
Update on current stats :

Level 86, 6.5K hp, 11k armour (52% phys reduc), 6 frenzy charges
15k tooltip dmg on +3bow / 5L / +30% dmg over time bow

I decided to shift from phase acro to iron reflexes as I believe it's not worth basing my defense on an all or nothing decider.

I'm still having trouble getting the damage I need, i'm not sure what I am missing, if someone could point it out or share some advice i'd appreciate it.

Heres my gear



My gear might be a tad bad at the moment as I just scavenged to get 191 strength to wear my Kaom's. I feel my bow is very good, and it's next on my list for an upgrade as I am going to attempt to 6L it and perhaps try to exalt a resistance or two.

Heres my passives

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwYAAF4DHgUtBbUHHgguDY0OSBEvEZYTbRQJFHUWvxjbGY4fQSLqI_YknSaIJpUppSpbKwouIzB8MgE2PTfUPs9DMUkTSVFKfUz_TZJOKlFHUuxVS1WFWhpbr1xAXfJh4mJaYqxqjGyMdO108XWedoJ67311gl6ExYd2h8uJ4I19jb-P-pMfk5mVLpsmm42btZ2qotmjiqXLp5uw2LIZtMW00bVItzC7nr3mwuzDM8M6yAzIFMu9zxXPetN-2sHfmOOf5ljmgejW62PtP-2D7g7vevDV9W_8xf66?accountName=typicalbrony&characterName=they

My playstyle is safe and calculated. I like to progress slow and safely, so I do not plan to change my setup until I can effectively use and afford a Lightning Coil and Taste of Hate.


Run empower? Work on getting more Caustic Arrows to 20 to corrupt? I'm sure you would get more damage out of an empower than running slower proj but I'm just starting a caustic arrow build myself.

When you drop kaoms for coil you could run hidden potential.
Last edited by Acebeans#3738 on Jan 1, 2016, 3:33:49 AM
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Last edited by muir#5779 on Jan 14, 2016, 12:05:19 PM
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Grocery wrote:
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veritaserum wrote:
lol tried same 6l setup(same tree) just get 18K dps in town, no way get next to 40 K ;)

where is the trick ?


concentrated effect is not included in the tooltip mate. 26k for me multiplied by 1.6. you would multiple your tooltip by the more multiplier your conc effect gives, depending on level.




ha ! i understand, now i know the trick. so i got around 30 k then...nice. many space to improve on gear / gems, so 40k absolutly realistic !

nice!

happy new year

I really can't get that drillneck obsession. People wastin 10 points instead of 2 just for stats, 50% dmg and 30% pierce chance

and not caring about 5 points way with 56% dmg

Pierce by itself without drillneck's multiplier is just garbage. And I think that drillneck has too many useless stats for CA build, this combo looks way better,
so we gettin even more without colossal investments in passives and money. What do you think?
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Last edited by nowai27#1559 on Jan 1, 2016, 7:25:45 PM
Hi again, lucky drillneck card draw guy here.

Just update on current things, 21K cloud DPS 60% evasion 40/46% spell dodge 4,9K life, LEVEL 89.





Thinking of going for kaoms plate since i like to have bunch of life and taking iron reflexes with it...

Still need better amy and rings tho(and EMP LVL3) but will try to go for uber kill aT some point soon.
Last edited by Bozzom#1192 on Jan 1, 2016, 8:42:53 PM
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nowai27 wrote:
I really can't get that drillneck obsession. People wastin 10 points instead of 2 just for stats, 50% dmg and 30% pierce chance

and not caring about 5 points way with 56% dmg

Pierce by itself without drillneck's multiplier is just garbage. And I think that drillneck has too many useless stats for CA build, this combo looks way better,
so we gettin even more without colossal investments in passives and money. What do you think?


I'll be investigating this tomorrow night when I get back. I have not had time to play for 2 weeks due to being on holiday. That quiver was not really big when I wrote the guide because Tali was just out. It looks very viable.

It is not a waste of 10 points unless you go IR. If you go Acro it is a waste of less points not necessarily a waste.

I'll take a look and let you know my thoughts, but it definitely looks like top tier choice.
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