[2.0] Rathik's Shotgunless Barrage COC. New build. Much stronger now. Boss killer.

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oliverlin111 wrote:
Do you know if 18% elemental reflect can be sustained through just 2% life leech when you have 79% resists without a shield/saffells? I tried doing a 15% ele reflect map and it seems like the 2% leech alone isn't enough. I'm considering the option of going 2 wand or a dps shield instead of saffells if I can still sustain the ele reflect through just the leech gem.


I don't remember ever not doing a map because of elemental reflect.
I am not sure if I ever came across an 18% elemental reflect though.
Of course I am always using WM/LL on my barrage links.

I have never tried dual wield or another shield so I can't be sure.
If reflect is an issue for you, just use Saffell's for that map and then go back to your DPS shield. Flasks are also important to use.

I know for a fact on physical reflect its extremely hard to clear the map if you are using EK. The damage is just to high.

On some maps mods you need to adapt :).

Regards
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Last edited by Rathik2#1558 on Sep 8, 2015, 4:20:24 AM
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Rathik2 wrote:
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oliverlin111 wrote:
Do you know if 18% elemental reflect can be sustained through just 2% life leech when you have 79% resists without a shield/saffells? I tried doing a 15% ele reflect map and it seems like the 2% leech alone isn't enough. I'm considering the option of going 2 wand or a dps shield instead of saffells if I can still sustain the ele reflect through just the leech gem.


I don't remember ever not doing a map because of elemental reflect.
I am not sure if I ever came across an 18% elemental reflect though.
Of course I am always using WM/LL on my barrage links.

I have never tried dual wield or another shield so I can't be sure.
If reflect is an issue for you, just use Saffell's for that map and then go back to your DPS shield. Flasks are also important to use.

I know for a fact on physical reflect its extremely hard to clear the map if you are using EK. The damage is just to high.

On some maps mods you need to adapt :).

Regards


I may have to just put on saffell's for any ele reflect map. Not too sure if I'll randomly kill myself on the single reflect rare. I don't normally run leech except during ele reflect. I only have warlord's mark on cast on damage taken and it has been fine. Just need to find another wand to dual wield with while upgrading my current wand too... can't seem to find any that I like since I'm trying to get spell dmg/weap crit/crit multi and probably spell crit so I can just craft cold/fire leech.
great guide man, really helpful :)

I crafted this a few days ago, was going to use it on my rf incin char but I feel like putting it to use on a CoC char would suit me better as I play CoC a lot, just wanted some input as what I should craft on it? im thinking all res%/crit chance/an then maybe eva%


Also, thought I'd share my CoC wand & dagger incase anyone would like to make an offer on them :)
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EKIMbro wrote:
great guide man, really helpful :)

I crafted this a few days ago, was going to use it on my rf incin char but I feel like putting it to use on a CoC char would suit me better as I play CoC a lot, just wanted some input as what I should craft on it? im thinking all res%/crit chance/an then maybe eva%


Also, thought I'd share my CoC wand & dagger incase anyone would like to make an offer on them :)


For suffixes I would go with with crit and accuracy.

For prefix evasion seems to be the best option.

You can also yolo exalted after u get all suffixes from masters and hope for spell damage.

Personally I wouldn't dare to yolo exalted it :)
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[2.0]NEWBIE MF/DPS Summoner -thread/479976 | Power leveling guide -thread/522556
Last edited by Rathik2#1558 on Sep 12, 2015, 4:20:22 AM
Hi!

I am currently trying out the budget version of your build as my current budget is about 2 chaos.
Really loving how it works but I think I might need some more help because I get rekt a lot! :(

Please consider I haven't played in a long time due to a nerf to a build I played in the past.
Back in the day I sold all my items and used that currency to finance my current setup!


TROPICAL_SUNRISE - Level 76 Witch


Anyway I would really appreciate some help regarding what items I should look for or what I should try to update.
For the single target setup, you have it setup without using GMP. I've been trying with and without GMP and am noticing much more consistent procs per attack with GMP. Considering that swapping out GMP only gets u 1 additional skill (out of 2 already in use), it doesn't feel like the damage from the 3rd skill is really doing enough to offset the loss of procs. Is there something that I'm doing incorrectly which is making the non GMP version not feel that great? At the moment I'm at 2.18 APS without GMP and can get to 2.35 with quality GMP.
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superwormjimmy wrote:
Hi!

I am currently trying out the budget version of your build as my current budget is about 2 chaos.
Really loving how it works but I think I might need some more help because I get rekt a lot! :(

Please consider I haven't played in a long time due to a nerf to a build I played in the past.
Back in the day I sold all my items and used that currency to finance my current setup!


TROPICAL_SUNRISE - Level 76 Witch


Anyway I would really appreciate some help regarding what items I should look for or what I should try to update.


It seems you don't have enough life. You jumped on spell damage nodes and critical multiplier instead of getting life and your gear has very low life on it.

Crit from rats wont help u when u r dead. You should get on poe.trade and start upgrading your gear one item at a time.

At least drop the critical multiplier nodes and get Blood drinker and herbalism. Also hired killer if possible.

Start boosting your defences and you ll be fine.



IGN Riokar | My guides
[2.0]Non legacy Mjölner. Uber down. -thread/1474288
[2.0]Shatter Chuck Lite COC -thread/1324981
[2.0]SRS Magic Find Culler. Uber capable. /w budged build -thread/1406603
[2.0]NEWBIE MF/DPS Summoner -thread/479976 | Power leveling guide -thread/522556
Last edited by Rathik2#1558 on Sep 14, 2015, 3:02:04 AM
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oliverlin111 wrote:
For the single target setup, you have it setup without using GMP. I've been trying with and without GMP and am noticing much more consistent procs per attack with GMP. Considering that swapping out GMP only gets u 1 additional skill (out of 2 already in use), it doesn't feel like the damage from the 3rd skill is really doing enough to offset the loss of procs. Is there something that I'm doing incorrectly which is making the non GMP version not feel that great? At the moment I'm at 2.18 APS without GMP and can get to 2.35 with quality GMP.


To be honest I don't play my COCer any more.

But I did some test and it seems that the more attack speed you have the better regardless of the COC cooldown.

You should test the 2 skill single target setup on merciless dominus on phase 2 or double vaal on apex and time it.

IGN Riokar | My guides
[2.0]Non legacy Mjölner. Uber down. -thread/1474288
[2.0]Shatter Chuck Lite COC -thread/1324981
[2.0]SRS Magic Find Culler. Uber capable. /w budged build -thread/1406603
[2.0]NEWBIE MF/DPS Summoner -thread/479976 | Power leveling guide -thread/522556
Why use herald of ash and physical nodes/stuff? Where do you do phys damage?
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hardlyhard wrote:
Why use herald of ash and physical nodes/stuff? Where do you do phys damage?


Ethereal Knives.
IGN Riokar | My guides
[2.0]Non legacy Mjölner. Uber down. -thread/1474288
[2.0]Shatter Chuck Lite COC -thread/1324981
[2.0]SRS Magic Find Culler. Uber capable. /w budged build -thread/1406603
[2.0]NEWBIE MF/DPS Summoner -thread/479976 | Power leveling guide -thread/522556

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