New Unique Items - Kingsguard and Call of the Brotherhood!

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raggapaul wrote:

Increases to damage work before conversion... so even if the output isnt lightning damage, he still benefits from the skillpoints :)

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ampdecay wrote:

so i can kinda pretend my ball lighting is frozen orb :x

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Taudlitz wrote:

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Zazulio wrote:

These both look super cool, but I can't help but think that this ring is wildly overpowered. With two of them on, you get 100% of lightning damage converted to cold damage. Add a cold-to-fire gem and Avatar of Fire, and you get 100% of cold damage converted to fire damage. Which means, in effect, lightning spells will scale with every kind of elemental damage node. Cold, lightning, fire, elemental, and spell damage.

I took a quick look at the skill tree, and this is by no means the maximum potential or most efficient point allotment, manage to get 581% increased damage with 65 points spent, leaving plenty left for health and energy shield. That's nuts, yo. You could easily sacrifice a little bit of that damage for some extra health, and still be dealing bugnuts insane amounts of damage without much actual investment.

I dont think thats particulary good idea :-)

* with two of these rings you deal no lightning damage = you cannot shock and increased lightning damage from ring is wasted
* if you add AoF and cold to fire you then deal only fire damage and cannot freeze = making this ring totaly useless in build. Also you wasted gem slot and you can scale your damage only by increased fire damage or spell damage, not lightning or cold as you are not dealing any of those

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Inarion1986 wrote:

E: And that ring... I don't know. With the change to how long status ailments last, it doesn't really seem to be that good. (I can only speak from the melee phys + Hatred point of view here, maybe with pure lightning damage the freezes would be long enough...)

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Vorakiv wrote:

Some things to think about before you call the ring incredibly overpowered:

1. 100 % chance to shock does not mean all damage types can shock, just like how a critical ice spear has 100% chance to shock, freeze, and ignite, but can only freeze unless you've added the relevant elemental damage type to the spell AND exceed the threshold for the status ailment.

2. The only two clusters that "double dip" are Snow Forged and Storm Weaver, none of them triple or quadruple dip. This is because the two aforementioned passives list their increased relevant damage on separate lines.

3. Lastly, and I was just reminded of this on reddit, using two of the rings in conjunction with avatar of fire causes only 66.7% of lightning to cold and 33.3% of lightning to fire, because that's how conversion works.

I think this ring will see most of it's use singly, that is while only wearing one of it, since that will still get full lightning to fire conversion with Avatar of Fire and Cold to Fire. Personally, I think this ring is in line with Pyre as far as balance is concerned. Also like Pyre, I think it's a really cool ring and will see a lot of use, but not because it's overpowered.