Hatred no longer buffs totems?

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Mark_GGG wrote:

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Shodokan123 wrote:

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Chris wrote:

Auras and aura-like effects can now affect totems.
Summoned totems are only affected by auras that affect defensive properties.
Summoned totems still use their summoner's skills. In order for an offensive aura to have an effect, it must affect the summoner, not the totem.

Can we please get some clarification? These three lines really SEEM to contradict each other. The way I read it Ranged Attack Totem will still work with offensive auras/Heralds because it affect's the character's actual damage sheet?

There's no contradiction there, the later lines are clarificaitons.

Previously, totems could not be affected by any auras. But summoned totems could use skills that benefitted by auras affecting you, because they use your skills. This has not changed (note the use of "still" in the third line).
Because offensive bonuses from auras affect the skill, not the object, they skill can't affect summoned totems, because they'd do nothing. Putting a totem in an anger aura would add fire damage to it's attacks, but that doesn't have any effect because it's using your attacks, not it's own. So You need to be in the anger for your skill to benefit - regardless of whether you or the totem is using the skill -because it's still your skill, with your stats.

But since we now have tech that allows us to let relevant auras affect totems, defensive auras - which affect the object rather than it's skills - can affect all totems, including summoned ones. Your ranged attakc totem can benefit from your Discipline aura, for example, just like any other object.

This also means that aura-like effects such as ground effects and righteous fire can affect totems. You can use poison arrow, ground fire, and Righteous Fire to kill enemy totems, which was previously not possible, because to disable the aura effects that couldn't work on totems, we had to disable all of them.

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Mark_GGG wrote:

Summoned Totems - even the ones with the support built-in like SWT - work by using your skills, not their own. The totem summoned by shockwave totem, just like a spell totem from the support gem, has never been able to be affected by the Hatred aura, because the skill it's using comes from you, and uses your stats, not it's own. This is all still true, and will not change - it's fundamental to how totems work.

The shockwave skill comes from you, so will get the extra cold damage if YOU are in the aura's effect, not the totem. Putting the totem in that auras effect can't do anything, because the skill the totem is using is on you, from your gem, not on the totem.

None of that mechanic has changed, and those kinds of auras fundamentally can never apply to summoned totems because they apply to skills, and the totems have no skills of their own. They'll continue to affect those skills whole the aura is affecting the player with the skill as they always have.

The change is that defensive auras, which - in contrast - don't apply to skills, can now apply to totems when they could not before, and the same with aura-style degen effects.

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irzman wrote:

do i understand it correctly??

if i turn on hatred and herald of ash my shockwave totem dmg still will be buffed or not?