[1.2] Incinerate Max Block 8k LMP Tooltip (Beyond Top 30)
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Hey guys, here to share the knowledge I have gained through trial and error while playing incinerate three leagues in a row, and making it into the top 30 of Beyond League while soloing!
This is an Eldritch Battery + Mind Over Matter build that relies on Cloak of Defiance to get the MoM Keystone. The approximate cost of the build with a 5l Cloak included is 8 Exalt. Current tooltip DPS is 8,065, shotgun DPS is 96,780, with fire penentration dps is through the roof, especially on resistant mobs. Check it out in a Monster Life Shipyard Map (77). 
How Mind Over Matter Works
 The way that Mind Over Matter works is that all damage you take is split 60/40. 60% of the damage you take is applied to your life pool, and 40% is applied to your mana pool. So the calculation is not Life * .4. To figure out the maximum unreserved mana pool for your life, it's: Life / .6 - Life So ATM i have 5040 Life 5040 / .6 = 8400 8400 - 5040 = 3360 3360 is the maximum amount of mana that will absorb damage for me if I am hit by a OHKO. Because i have 2657 unreserved mana, my effective HP is 5040 + 2657 = 7697.
Index
Index
1. Passive Skill Tree 2. Gear 2.1 Essential 2.2 The Rest 2.3 Considerations 2.4 My Gear 3. Gems 3.1 Incinerate 3.2 Auras & Vaal Spark / Vaal Grace 3.3 Cast When x 3.4 Curse & Arctic Armor 3.5 Lightning Warp 4. Stats / Screencaps 5. Videos
1. Passive Skill Tree
Bandit order
Normal oak: for life Cruel skill point: you already have access to cast speed nodes in 4 different places on the tree Merciless endurance charge or skill point: endurance charge if you want a longer immortal call
Inner Force (Current Build)
This is likely the final version of the build I will do. This is the full inner force tree, block is capped with a 4% block lahzwar and tempest shield. Spell damage nodes in witch tree can be replaced with health nodes in scion wheel if necessary. 5484 Life, 3962 Mana, 2245 Unreserved, 317 Mana/s http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYBAuMDHgQHBukHHgdjB6UI9Ax9DPcOSBBYEH8RlhXnFm8Wvxo4GmwegR8CH0EkqiaVJ2Eo-isNLJwtHzI0NZI2PTbFNuk6WDwtQYdEq0V8RZ1JUUmyS41Ms099UWBTUlVLVa5Vxl3yXh9fKl_KYeJirGaeakNrF2yMc7N-4n_GgFaCEIIegseD24dljDaPppBVlSCVLpeXmuCdY52qna6io6SxpwinhKmVr7e0xbc-uJO86sAawFTB88aexq7Lvdgk2L3a3dsL37DjauOE5Y7nC-nV6-Tr7vBr8NXzvvno-tL-Cv6P_xw=
Discipline and Training (Old Build)
This build works for either Witch or Shadow. Build is capped off at 93 with Discipline and Training. 5.3k Hp, 2.3k unreserved mana, effectively 7.6k hp with MoM, 272 Mana regen/s. Pretty tanky. http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYBAuMDHgQHBLMG6QceB2MHpQj0DPcOSBBYEZYUTRXnFm8Wvxo4GmwegR8CH0EkqiaVJ2ErDSycLR8yNDY9NsU26TpYOthFfEWdSVFJskuNTLNPfVFgU1JVS1XGXfJeH18qYeJirGaeakNrF2yMbRlzs3y7fll-4n_GgFaCEIIeg9uHZYw2kFWVIJUul5ea4J1jnaqdrqIAoqOksacIpzSnhKmVr2yvt7TFuJO86r2CwBrAVMCcwfPFisu92CTa3dsL37DjauOE5Y7mgecL6dXr5Ovu7DjwH_Br8NXzvvrS_xw= +40 Life, Skill Point, Skill Point You could get an additional endurance charge if you plan on doing atziri.
2. Gear
2.1 Essential
Cybil's Paw
Cybil's Paw The first item you should purchase. Synergy with block, cast speed. Can be equipped at 37 and makes levelling up easy mode. Vaal orb with fire leech or culling
Stone of Lahzwar
Stone of Lahzwar 2nd order of purchase, necessary to get max spell block. Vaal orb with 1% fire leech or %block chance.
Cloak of Defiance
Cloak of Defiance This is absolutely required for the build if you want to survive, should be the third item you get. This will help mitigate all types of damage, but most importantly physical damage, which is your greatest weakness. I would recommend getting a 5l for this build, otherwise your damage will suffer in maps.
Rathpith Globe
Rathpith Globe The final piece of the puzzle, caps your spell block. Try to get 50% spellblock minimum, otherwise capping spell block will require investing in Mind Barrier node.
2.1 The Rest
The goal of all your other gear in order of importance; overcap your RESISTS, get LIFE, get MANA, get MANA REGEN. Stats that you are looking for: Max Life, Energy Shield, Mana Regen, Max Mana
Helm
Base: Energy Shield / Evasion or Armour +Max Life Dual or Triple Resis Bonus: %ES / Flat ES / Max Mana
Gloves
Base: Energy Shield / Evasion or Armour +Max Life Dual Resis Enchant: 2-3 Block *This will help you reach block cap Bonus: %ES / Flat ES / Max Mana
Boots
Base: Energy Shield / Evasion or Armour +Max Life Dual or Triple Resis Move Speed Bonus: %ES / Flat ES / Max Mana
Belt
Base: Leather Belt +Max Life Dual or Triple Resis Bonus: Flat Armour / Flat ES / Str or Dex
Rings
Base: Any +Max Life Dual or Triple Resis Bonus: +Max Mana / Mana Regeneration / Flat ES / Str or Dex
Potions
Seething Divine of Staunching Seething Divine of Heat Ample Quicksilver of Adrenaline / Perpetual Ruby of Dousing Perpetual Granite/Jade of Warding Perpetual Ruby of Dousing / Perpetual Topaz of Grounding A staunching flask is absolutely required. Once you hit a certain gear threshold, your biggest threats will be corrupting blood and puncture. Dispels frozen and chilled is going to be required, as you will not have immune to frozen on any gear (unless you run Alpha's Howl, which is not recommended) I prefer granite over jade, as you will find the lower consumption (30 vs 40 of jade) allows for more gulps... I usually swap between Ruby and Topaz depending on the situation. I run the Ruby for most situations, Topaz for piety.
2.3 Other considerations
Doryani's Invitation
This is a good belt, you lose a lot of Life in exchange for extra leech and damage. Not a bad tradeoff.
Apep's Rage
This could add a lot of potential DPS, but at the loss of cybil's excellent life leech and %spell damage, which also synergizes well with %fire leech should you have any. Apep's chaos damage does not synergize with %fire leech, which is your only source of leech outside of cybil or the gem itself. more to come...
2.4 My Gear
3. Gems
3.1 Incinerate
Link order: LMP > Spell Echo > Faster Casting > Fire Pen > Added Chaos
Other considerations
Faster Projectiles: Good, but not necessary, probably better with an apep's build (proj damage increases the flat chaos) Greater Multiple Projectiles: Better shotgun, worse vs most other situations, higher mana cost, difficult to sustain Added Lightning: Could be considered as a replacement for added chaos, have not tested yet. Less tooltip, so smaller epeen Added Cold: Same as added lightning
3.2 Auras & Vaal Spark / Vaal Grace
Clarity + Herald of Ice + Reduced Mana
Tempest Shield + Blind + Vaal Grace + Reduced Mana
Tempest shield + blind is great utility. Mobs will constantly be blinded due to the amount you are blocking (even spellcasters due to spellblock). Vaal Grace needed a place to go, and it ends up here for me. Ideally it would link it with increased duration. Vaal Spark is an alternative in this setup as it will benefit from blind, blinding all enemies around you and dealing a lot of damage as well.
Other considerations
Purity of Fire: you should have one of these if you want to do atziri Discipline: Only run this if you cannot sustain Arctic Armour without it. Otherwise, you end up with MORE unreserved mana without it (more effective life)
3.3 Cast When x
Cast When Stunned is the best choice. It is simply better in the late game than CWDT as it provides a much longer Immortal Call, and is capable of preventing damage (If you block a hit that would have stunned you, it will proc CWS) Cast When Stunned + Enduring Cry + Immortal Call + Increased Duration You can also run as an addition, not as a replacement: Cast When Damage Taken + Enduring Cry + Frost Wall as well for more durability. The frost walls will keep hard-hitting melee minions off you.
3.4 Curse & Arctic Armor
Arctic Armour + Enhance + Empower + Enfeeble Why? Because there is a lot of synergy here. Arctic armour gets more flat mitigation with increased levels, as does enfeeble. Enhance increases the bonus movespeed on AA, and reduces the accuracy of cursed enemies with enfeeble. This setup takes you from tanky to unkillable.
3.5 Lightning Warp
Standard setup: Lighting Warp + Faster Casting + Reduced Duration
4. Stats / Screencaps
Images are from merciless docks.   
5. Video(s)
Shipyard Map (77)
Pack size and monster life. No commentary just the map and the DPS.
http://www.twitch.tv/godztv/c/5155579
Courtyard Map (78)
Pack size and magic monsters. Dislaimer: from my stream last night, mumble in the background may offend, mute if necessary :D
http://www.twitch.tv/godztv/c/5155469
Palace Map (78)
Last edited by Baeltimazifas#6534 on Oct 14, 2014, 6:44:16 PM
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why do you take mind drinker node if we are not dealing physical damage? for the 12% mana?
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" Yes, i take max mana nodes because they are effectively HP with MoM. |
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My math maybe failing me but how do you go from 7k dps tooltip to 84k shotgun? I get the fire pen part
Thanks Green_honey_boo_boo is my favourite south park character!
My Goddess Scorned crit ele cleave build @ 1076445 |
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" stage 3 is 300% more damage, so 7K x 4 = 28K 28K x 3 projectiles = 84 You are probably miscalculating how percentage works. 300% is not x3, it's x4. Or rather 7K + (7K x 3) @OP How are you dealing with stuns? Last edited by Melkrow#0726 on Sep 19, 2014, 8:15:44 PM
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" I missed the 300% all together cos I wasn't familiar with the stacking for incinerate! thanks mate Green_honey_boo_boo is my favourite south park character!
My Goddess Scorned crit ele cleave build @ 1076445 |
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" cast when stunned + immortal call synergizes well with being stunned. Otherwise, mind over matter seems to raise the threshold |
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Keep it up.
The chance to Vaal +1% maximum resists on an amulet is less than 1/300.
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Nice build mate.
I do think you are overestimating you effective life pool. Your free mana only needs to be 30% of life's pool! maybe a tiny bit higher if you get MoM from cloak, due to the 10% extra mod. Effectively, when you loose all your life, you will still have mana left, but that amount is not really effective life, considering by then you are already dead. I do think you should be left with excess mana, to avoid ever loosing AA. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. I'm new to the MoM shenanigans. Used to play attack based builds mostly and I'm using MoM for the first time (bought cloak 2 days ago), so I wouldn't be surprised if I'm incorrect. I like your build though. Nice to see someone doing high level incinerate. Edit: Lmk your views on this. I'm very interested in finding the optimal proportion. Thx :) Last edited by KlaatuZu#4103 on Sep 20, 2014, 4:05:28 AM
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" 2120/5300 = 0.4 so if one-shot was the only thing we guarded against in poe then you are right, it's 7420 effective life. that really seems like splitting hairs though and his mana pool being so close but slightly above the 0.4 limit means he is maximising the anti-one-shot potential of MoM. |
